Roseburg, Oregon School Shooting

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

No they don't all say the same thing. But they all, like this one, are third-hand hearsay.

I've noticed 427 is only too happy to use the "it's only hearsay" argument when it comes to what kind of guns the shooter had.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Oerets

Still what is the need other then as a toy? I feel the same towards the full auto weapons.

The rifle in one of the pictures I've seen of him, it appears to be a .30 carbine or a Ruger carbine to be holding from the looks of it.


Yes the reports I seen all say he was wearing body armor with steel plates.


Barney

There is no need. None at all. It's just a case of pouting little kids bitching and finding excuses because the whole world is confronting them with their immaturity. They're sick in the head. Anybody who sees mass murder of innocents as "the price of freedom" or somehow otherwise acceptable is a sick bastard.

[68custom]

this country really needs meaningful gun control AND election campaign finacing laws passed . until this happens the crazies will continue on their paths of destruction, where ever they may be.

[bobabode]

Speaking of charts and numbers, here's a source - https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/201...-2000-and-2013

[Oerets]

More then 10X the number of people are effected by gun violence in the USA then by terrorism.

One is the black hole of funding and talk of more to be done, the other is just a fact of life we need to get use to.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/02/us/ore...nce/index.html


Barney

[Rajoo]

Is it possible also that we have a sheriff who is a 'tenther' and probably a 'birther' that may very well be running interference on this investigation, or at the very least on the information filtering or leaking through?

[BlueStreak]

Excuse my ignorance, but what is a "tenther"?

[Rajoo]

The Tenther movement is a political ideology and a social movement in the United States that espouses that the Federal Government's enumerated powers must be read very narrowly to exclude much of what the Federal Government already does, citing the Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution in support of this.
Tenther movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenther_movementWikipedia

In essence the 'tenther' does not prescribe to the power of the Federal government when convenient. Cliven Bundy's of the world.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I've noticed 427 is only too happy to use the "it's only hearsay" argument when it comes to what kind of guns the shooter had.

Not at all, I'm sure I remember one student that was interviewed at the sene, saying what everyone is saying, I just cant find it on video.

As far as third party, parents all of them that sill have kids alive and talking have all said the samething as what is reported. If you want to hear it from the kids themselves you'll need to wait if any of them want to come out and talk about it, once able.

However other than the shooter using one hand gun we have no evedence of anything else. The liberal press and internet is running around with an agenda plan and simple. "Gunman shoots up a school with a AR 15 assault rifle". LOL False narrative to say the least.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Speaking of charts and numbers, here's a source - https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/201...-2000-and-2013

Casualties
A total of 1,043 casualties occurred during the incidents included in this study (486 killed,
557 wounded). If a shooter died as a result of the incident, that individual was not included
in the casualty totals. In addition, a small number of those identified as wounded were not
injured by gunfire but rather suffered injuries incidental to the event, such as being hit by
flying objects/shattered glass or falling while running. For the purposes of this study, the
FBI did not seek to isolate the exact number of individuals that fell into this category, when
research did not allow for that type of injury to be easily discerned.
The median number of individuals killed in each incident was 2, and the median number of
individuals wounded in each incident was 2.
The FBI found that 64 incidents (40.0%) would have been categorized as falling within
the new federal definition of “mass killing,” which is defined as “three or more killings in
a single incident.”19

19 Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act of 2012, 28 USC 530C(b)(1)(M)(i).
https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/201...-2000-and-2013