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Old 09-18-2015, 11:52 AM
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He should be the gift that keeps on giving, but the example of Ronald Reagan and Mencken's dictum on the intelligence of the American people are cautionary.

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There is a war going on within the Republican Party.

I'm going to kick back and enjoy it.

And root for heavy casualties on both sides.
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Old 09-18-2015, 11:58 AM
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It's not biting him anywhere yet from what I can see other than making him a champion in the eyes of his bigoted followers. No one in the GOP seems to be capable of calling his bluff; that is all he is trying to do, bluff his way into nomination. The conservative group 'Club for Growth' has started an ad campaign targeting Trump and it remains to be seen if this will have any effect. For now his followers seem to be tone deaf and irrational, which unexpectedly is helping the Dem's. Longer the better since Mr. Obama is doing a great job making the GOP look like a bunch of two year old's.
If I was Bush I would not even think of high-fiving Trump; I guess Bush is so afraid of losing the primaries that principle does not matter. The big money guys cannot stop Trump because he can get around them because he is wealthy himself and has all the true believers behind him. Trump has sort of beaten Citizen's United but unfortunately he is doing with bigotry. Tom Wolfe could not make this stuff up.
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Old 09-18-2015, 12:11 PM
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Trump is doing a great service to the Democrats, and all you lefties are idiots for looking this gift horse in the mouth.
This is what keeps me from being 'all smiles' re Trump. Margins not wide enough, considering margins of error. (MSNBC poll an outlier compared to all others).

I know, election's a long way off, and it may not be Clinton. But when you consider how bad it can get if Trump gets in, there is way too much risk here.



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Old 09-18-2015, 12:19 PM
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There is a war going on within the Republican Party.

I'm going to kick back and enjoy it.

And root for heavy casualties on both sides.
The Suicide Caucus is back in town looking to shut down the gubmint again.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...a64_story.html
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Old 09-18-2015, 12:24 PM
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The Suicide Caucus is back in town looking to shut down the gubmint again.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...a64_story.html
I hope they succeed.

It's always enjoyable to watch ones enemies shoot themselves in the foot.
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Old 09-18-2015, 12:26 PM
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It was Trump that said the stupid shit. Failure to shut a guy like that down equals approval.

(close paraphrase)

GUY: "When can we get rid of all the Muslims?"
TRUMP: "Good question! We're looking into that."
I'm sorry I thought we where in America where people can say what they want. But then again you don't like free speech, just your opinion matters and what you want to say.
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Old 09-18-2015, 12:32 PM
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Free speech is not a defense against response, it's a 2 way street within reasonable limits. One may have the right to say whatever they want as long as it doesn't equate to a credible threat, and another has the right to resent such and respond accordingly.

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Old 09-18-2015, 12:37 PM
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I'm sorry I thought we where in America where people can say what they want. But then again you don't like free speech, just your opinion matters and what you want to say.
I didn't mean 'shut down' as in 'send a big dude to throw him out.' I meant as in tell him bluntly that he's really crazy and evil to think like that.
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Old 09-18-2015, 12:43 PM
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I didn't mean 'shut down' as in 'send a big dude to throw him out.' I meant as in tell him bluntly that he's really crazy and evil to think like that.
Yep. Trump should've pulled a McCain on that guy but he didn't.
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Old 09-18-2015, 01:29 PM
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I think Trump's fatal flaw will be the realization that he himself believes in the things he says. I mean if he REALLY believes Obama is not a citizen that shows how shallow his critical reasoning is. Maybe you can be a billionaire and not be too smart at the same time.
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