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09-10-2015, 10:53 PM
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In the title I said again because this case below is now winding through the court system.
Thabo Sefolosha, an NBA player of some fame and with a good personal reputation got his leg broken in the scuffle with the cops. and this just before the NBA playoffs which he missed. He is now refusing a plea bargain preferring a jury trial.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13...et-oct-5-trial
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09-10-2015, 11:23 PM
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In the title I said again because this case below is now winding through the court system.
Thabo Sefolosha, an NBA player of some fame and with a good personal reputation got his leg broken in the scuffle with the cops. and this just before the NBA playoffs which he missed. He is now refusing a plea bargain preferring a jury trial.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13...et-oct-5-trial
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"He is now refusing a plea bargain preferring a jury trial."
If he was so innocent there would be no trial at all.
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09-10-2015, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 4-2-7
"He is now refusing a plea bargain preferring a jury trial."
If he was so innocent there would be no trial at all.
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Boy, is that ever dumb!
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09-11-2015, 01:06 AM
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Boy, is that ever dumb!
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Only for the ignorant
Could it be I have a bit more experience with the criminal justice department?
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09-11-2015, 06:17 PM
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Shut your mouth.
Proper procedure is to go up to the suspect, identify yourself and make an arrest. If he flees then you are allowed to tackle. Not before.
Again. Shut your troll mouth.
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You're just wholly, wholly wrong.
If a weapon, danger, or any number of a LARGE number of things are suspected via all manner of potential avenues?
You go to the ground, then we "talk."
Witnesses, even inaccurate ones, count.
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09-11-2015, 06:32 PM
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http://www.wmur.com/national/james-b...round/35226272
No need for witnesses watch the footage.
You defend stand your ground laws in the case of Trayvon Martin. A black kid who was accosted and then murdered by a (proven) unhinged fuckhead. Zimmerman apparently had the right to self defense, even though he provoked the fight.
And in this case where a non uniformed cop who does not identify themselves. They can attack a black man too.
Would James Blake be within his rights to kill the officer who does not identify himself. Funny old mess your logic, but I see your decisive point in all of this.
If you are black you have no rights.
Put on your little pointy white hood. I think you've got some crosses to burn and some black men to lynch. Maybe they whistled at a white woman.
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09-11-2015, 06:33 PM
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But I'm glad this happened to James Blake. He seems eminently sensible. His wealth and fame may hopefully serve as a catalyst for change.
The public deserves a police force that don't act in this fashion.
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09-11-2015, 06:35 PM
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Now you're just being dumb.
Go re-read any post I've made on Martin.
In theory, Blake might be within some right to try and harm the officer: that's why you take him to the ground.
Witness? You're toast. If the witness is wrong? You've subdued the guy immediately and maintained safety in a situation that could go bad.
Standard procedure.
Live with it. Public protection upheld.
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09-11-2015, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeke
Now you're just being dumb.
Go re-read any post I've made on Martin.
In theory, Blake might be within some right to try and harm the officer: that's why you take him to the ground.
Witness? You're toast. If the witness is wrong? You've subdued the guy immediately and maintained safety in a situation that could go bad.
Standard procedure.
Live with it. Public protection upheld.
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You are being dumb. Watch the video. He poses absolutely no threat. The little hitler cop needs to be kicked off the force, like you were.
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09-12-2015, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by matteos
You are being dumb. Watch the video. He poses absolutely no threat. The little hitler cop needs to be kicked off the force, like you were.
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This cop has prior history of using excessive force and his worst offense here may also be that he did not identify himself before rushing and taking down Blake.
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The officer whose rough, mistaken arrest of former tennis star James Blake prompted apologies from New York City's mayor and police commissioner has a history of excessive-force allegations, records show.
Officer James Frascatore was the subject of five civilian complaints in a seven-month period of 2013, according to radio's WNYC, and he has been named in two federal civil rights lawsuits as being among a group of officers accused of beating, pepper spraying and falsely arresting two Queens men in separate incidents that year.
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http://www.espn.co.uk/tennis/story/_...ce-allegations
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