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09-11-2015, 06:41 AM
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Casualties Post 9/11 Attacks
Medical experts concluded that the environmental degradation after 9/11 had serious consequence to the health of people who lived or worked in the Twin Tower area and especially those who did clean up work.
Conclusion of medical authorities:As of August 2013.
Diagnosed with cancer - 1140 people who worked lived or studied in Lower Manhattan.
Workers at the scene days and months after the attack - 1400 died.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casual...ber_11_attacks
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09-11-2015, 07:07 AM
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You have a way of rolling hurts done to us around in your mind, over and over, as if they were shiny precious objects.
Any thoughts about the casualties to people in Iraq post 9/11?
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09-11-2015, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
You have a way of rolling hurts done to us around in your mind, over and over, as if they were shiny precious objects.
Any thoughts about the casualties to people in Iraq post 9/11?
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For goodness sake today is 9/11.
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09-11-2015, 07:50 AM
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I honestly hadn't noticed. That is, I knew the date, but the fact that it was the attack anniversary was not in my awareness.
That does make noting the continued effects a tad more understandable.
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09-11-2015, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
I honestly hadn't noticed. That is, I knew the date, but the fact that it was the attack anniversary was not in my awareness.
That does make noting the continued effects a tad more understandable.
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Perfectly understandable for people living in a bubble of hate filled propaganda, denial and oblivious to factual information.
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09-11-2015, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
Medical experts concluded that the environmental degradation after 9/11 had serious consequence to the health of people who lived or worked in the Twin Tower area and especially those who did clean up work.
Conclusion of medical authorities:As of August 2013.
Diagnosed with cancer - 1140 people who worked lived or studied in Lower Manhattan.
Workers at the scene days and months after the attack - 1400 died.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casual...ber_11_attacks
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Thanks Don as these people did sacrifice their lives to help others and I'm sure if they knew the danger they would have done it anyway.
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09-11-2015, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
Medical experts concluded that the environmental degradation after 9/11 had serious consequence to the health of people who lived or worked in the Twin Tower area and especially those who did clean up work.
Conclusion of medical authorities:As of August 2013.
Diagnosed with cancer - 1140 people who worked lived or studied in Lower Manhattan.
Workers at the scene days and months after the attack - 1400 died.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casual...ber_11_attacks
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I think cancer kills about 1 out of every 4 people anyway, so I question any study suggesting causality between 9/11 and local NYC cancer deaths.
To quote Wikipedia:
A study published in December 2012 in The Journal of the American Medical Association observed the possible association between exposure to the World Trade Center debris and excess cancer risk. Over 55,000 individuals enrolled in the World Trade Center Health Registry, separated by rescue and/or recovery workers and non-rescue and/or recovery workers, were observed from 2003 or 2004 to December 31, 2008. The findings showed the overall incidence of all cancers among rescue and/or recovery workers was not significantly elevated, compared to non-rescue and/or recovery workers. Despite this, the incidences for prostate cancer, thyroid cancer, and multiple myeloma were significantly elevated among the rescue and/or recovery workers, in the final year of observation.[14]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health...ber_11_attacks
DQ is right.
Our response to 9/11, our invasion of Iraq, was a complete and utter disaster.
What kills me are people complaining about Obama being too soft on Iran after George Bush took out a Sunni buffer by getting rid of Saddam, thus increasing Iran's power in the region.
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09-11-2015, 10:12 AM
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For goodness sake today is 9/11.
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Fuck 9/11.
It's the day the Bush Administration used as an excuse to start their Illegal. immoral war of imperial aggression in Iraq. A war that has now engulfed almost the entire Middle East into one big giant cluster fuck.
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09-11-2015, 11:10 AM
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9/11 should be remembered as an example of religious insanity. Or is it the flipside of the 'religion of peace'?
And our response had nothing to do with going after the perpetrators. Nation building and obsession with cheap oil. Conquering Iraq was a cake walk, managing it has been an enduring nightmare. Now we have ISIS which is a ticking time bomb. Countless loss of innocent lives and this continues.
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09-11-2015, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BeamOn
9/11 should be remembered as an example of religious insanity. Or is it the flipside of the 'religion of peace'?
And our response had nothing to do with going after the perpetrators. Nation building and obsession with cheap oil. Conquering Iraq was a cake walk, managing it has been an enduring nightmare. Now we have ISIS which is a ticking time bomb. Countless loss of innocent lives and this continues.
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It should also be remembered as, at best, a case of governmental unpreparedness or, at worst, a monstrously cynical effort to galvanize public support for a war of conquest.
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