Baltimore To Pay $6.4 Million To Freddie Gray's Family

[Pio1980]

A trial of the perpetrators for abuse of authority resulting in death, and compensation for the family of the deceased seems reasonable. How the family uses the money is up to them, tho mandating a trust fund for surviving dependents to be administered by a trusted agent, and perhaps something directed to mentoring as a memorial would be appropriate.

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[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by catswiththum

That is the law of the jungle - I am sorry you feel that way.

I don't have to tell you the law exists for a fair and just hearing for the accused, regardless of the feelings of any one individual or group.

The officers have not had a trial, no evidence has been given, no testimony heard - the city has pronounced them guilty with this settlement and denied them that right.

It is just feelings, and I so identified them. But you wax hyperbolic. Law of the jungle would be throwing them to the mob. There will still to be trials, and their outcome is hardly certain.

Anyway, we're just arguing opinion. How 'fair and just' would the trials have been? How 'fair and just' will they be now? The thing cannot be measured. Is the quanta of negative 'fairness and justness' greater or lesser than the positive quanta (if any, you seem inclined to be unsure) of granting monetary recompense to the family now, and through a final settlement, instead of years from now after a court action and a string of appeals? That also cannot be measured. So your sorrow for my feelings is just more feelings. I'm tempted to say 'thanks for sharing.'

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Remember when I said I would ban myself for two weeks if I ever slip up and respond to him again?

Well I'm amending that.

It's now a 30 day self ban.

You're being too rough on yourself.

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by Zeke

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Is that what they call members of that community?

[catswiththum]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

It is just feelings, and I so identified them. But you wax hyperbolic. So your sorrow for my feelings is just more feelings. I'm tempted to say 'thanks for sharing.'

You are welcome.

I will amend "law of the jungle."

Deliberately contravening the legal process and rights of the accused is more accurate.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by JBS...

What a phucking joke... no suit has even been filed.

Doesn't matter.

Their lawyers will still get 1/3 of that off the top.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by catswiththum

You are welcome.

I will amend "law of the jungle."

Deliberately contravening the legal process and rights of the accused is more accurate.

Said 'deliberate contravening' of the rights of the accused is not shown. It may, to whatever extent it exists, just be a by-product of the deliberate haste to provide for the family.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Doesn't matter.

Their lawyers will still get 1/3 of that off the top.

The $$$ is cheaper than defense and quells a barbarian rabble.

Wolf meat or government cheese, call it either.

And the vermin will wind up paying for it, anyway, through increased enforcement.

Too perfect once officers are appropriately exonerated.

[djv8ga]

I bet the Gray family will be spending that settlement somewhere else.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by catswiththum

Whatever your opinion of the situation, the city, by reaching a settlement, is admitting guilt in the death of Freddie Grey before the trial of the 6 officers accused has even begun.

This effectively taints any jury pool - "if they are not guilty, why did the city pay 6.4 million dollars?"

The city has perverted the course of justice and dealt a serious blow to the officers' right to a fair trial.

No, they're not. They are acknowledging that Freddie Gray died unnecessarily while in custody. That much has been obvious and uncontested from the beginning. This makes the city liable for damages but it does not imply criminal behavior on the part of the 6 officers.