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08-25-2015, 11:58 AM
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It is futile to argue here that Hillary is a lousy candidate it seems.
If this is misogyny or Hillary hate, so be it. I am convinced more so now that if Hillary is the Democratic candidate for president, she will not win the swing states, none of them. They are swing states because they have a large contingent of skeptics, and if one is a skeptic, Hillary is not the one you choose. What does it matter she can win CA, NY or WA.
All the name calling or reverse hate isn't going to help her win, in fact the opposite. Is Biden or Sanders the answer? We do not know yet but what we do know is that Hillary is damaging the party. She is sucking oxygen from the primary process. Presently the GOP seems to be having a very robust process going on than the Dem's. That should be a cause for concern. Repeating that Hillary is going to win the nomination is simplistic.
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08-25-2015, 11:58 AM
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QFT. 
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I suppose when one lacks the intellect and reason to fashion a sensible argument, all that is left is to pick over the offerings of others.
Sad, but not uncommon.
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08-25-2015, 11:58 AM
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As long as we're dreaming of war crime tribunals, a case you have some personal experience with - do a little reading on Henry Cabot Lodge and the coup in Vietnam that made it our war until the end.
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What's this, the old "Liberals do it too" bullshit? As if that makes any difference at all.
And HCLJr was appointed by LBJ, Not JFK.... FWIW.
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So, you're a misogynistic hater too. Congrats.
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08-25-2015, 12:01 PM
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What's this, the old "Liberals do it too" bullshit? As if that makes any difference at all.
And, despite being LBJ's ambassador to South Vietnam, Lodge was a Republican.
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You really are an idiot, aren't you? Perhaps if you had bothered to read my post indicating Lodge a Republican and Kennedy's nominee - not LBJ - you would be taken for more than a knee jerk party mouthpiece.
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08-25-2015, 12:01 PM
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Repeating that Hillary is going to win the nomination is simplistic.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4d8PHDG4yE
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08-25-2015, 12:04 PM
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Kennedy was shot a month after the coup. Wikipedia is not an accurate academic source - just easy for the lazy.
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08-25-2015, 12:06 PM
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I suppose when one lacks the intellect and reason to fashion a sensible argument, all that is left is to pick over the offerings of others.
Sad, but not uncommon.
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Not unlike a hopeless Polyanna quoting sad little clichés.
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08-25-2015, 12:10 PM
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Kennedy was shot a month after the coup. Wikipedia is not an accurate academic source - just easy for the lazy.
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Lodge was appointed ambassador in 1965.
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Although to be fair, he was an acknowledged dummy with no experience in Indochina - appointed by Kennedy as a favor and turned loose - the White House had no idea what was happening until it was over and too late.
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And, of course, this whole Vietnam angle is just a pathetic little deflection, having fuck-all to do with Hillary Clinton.
[EDIT] Well, it turns out we're both right but you're righter. Lodge was appointed by LBJ in 1965 but it was his second appointment. He had been appointed earlier by JFK, in 1963.
But, again, what the fuck does this have to do with Sec. Clinton's emails? Was she in Saigon too? Did they have email back then?
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