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08-20-2015, 12:55 PM
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Great point. The Clintons may be manipulative but not immoral in the sense of the hucksters in the GOP who resort to blatant lies to distort the truth.
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You don't think Hillary is capable of blatant lies? Please.
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08-20-2015, 01:05 PM
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You don't think Hillary is capable of blatant lies? Please.
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Yes and no, and I will let you figure out where the no applies. She may be politically very calculating but not an outright liar like the Fox Ten.
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08-20-2015, 01:50 PM
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Yes and no, and I will let you figure out where the no applies. She may be politically very calculating but not an outright liar like the Fox Ten.
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She could probably school all of them. She learned from the best.
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08-20-2015, 01:57 PM
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The attempt to railroad the Clintons with an unending stream of faux scandals has been virtually non-stop for a quarter century. Nothing has stuck but, nevertheless, some among us have bought that bridge anyway. It's understandable, I suppose, but it doesn't speak well for our ability to discern witch hunts from reality.
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08-20-2015, 02:24 PM
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The attempt to railroad the Clintons with an unending stream of faux scandals has been virtually non-stop for a quarter century. Nothing has stuck but, nevertheless, some among us have bought that bridge anyway. It's understandable, I suppose, but it doesn't speak well for our ability to discern witch hunts from reality.
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I'd agree up until the latest email scandal. Those unwilling or unable to understand the seriousness of this one do indeed have trouble discerning witch hunts from reality. The IG's and FBI don't do witch hunts, at least not in such matters.
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08-20-2015, 02:34 PM
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I'd agree up until the latest email scandal. Those unwilling or unable to understand the seriousness of this one do indeed have trouble discerning witch hunts from reality. The IG's and FBI don't do witch hunts, at least not in such matters.
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At worst, poor judgment and a judgment exercised by a number of her predecessors.
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08-20-2015, 02:43 PM
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At worst, poor judgment and a judgment exercised by a number of her predecessors.
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That remains to be seen. Stay tuned.
FWIW, I had increasingly stringent levels of security clearances over a 38 year Federal career. The clearance I had for the last twenty years would have had me fired forthwith for security infractions much less severe than hers.
There's simply no excuse for what she did in this instance. The fact that she's the preordained Democratic nominee sure seems to have stripped Democratic ideologues of any semblance of objectivity.
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08-20-2015, 02:50 PM
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That remains to be seen. Stay tuned.
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I would urge you to do the same, Pat.
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08-20-2015, 02:59 PM
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Only low information voters believe Joe Scarbourough.
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08-20-2015, 03:25 PM
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Only low information voters believe Hillary.
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Fixed that for you.
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