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08-16-2015, 12:40 PM
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BTW, you are speaking from both sides of your mouth. On the one hand you are supporting Bernie's candidacy yet anyone commenting negatively on HRC is fair game to you. 
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I'm trying to follow Bernies example, at least with regard to the other Democratic candidates, with the exception of "Jefferson Davis" Webb.
“I have a lot of respect for Hillary Clinton,” Sanders said. “I am not going to be engaging in personal attacks against her.”
Besides, I want to save up all my hate for the Republicans.
I hate the fuck out of everyone of them, with the exception of Trump.
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08-16-2015, 12:40 PM
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His rhetoric isn't "far left". It's left, of course, the same way that Sweden or Denmark is left, but I haven't heard Bernie say anything about nationalizing critical industries or collectivizing agricultural production.
This idea that Bernie is an extremist hurts his chances and is, more important, completely wrong. Bernie is where most Americans are on most issues and they'd realize it if they stopped listening to the media and start listening to him.
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08-16-2015, 12:41 PM
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His rhetoric isn't "far left". It's left, of course, the same way that Sweden or Denmark is left, but I haven't heard Bernie say anything about nationalizing critical industries or collectivizing agricultural production.
This idea that Bernie is an extremist hurts his chances and is, more important, completely wrong. Bernie is where most Americans are on most issues and they'd realize it if they stopped listening to the media and start listening to him.
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That's true.
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08-16-2015, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
His rhetoric isn't "far left". It's left, of course, the same way that Sweden or Denmark is left, but I haven't heard Bernie say anything about nationalizing critical industries or collectivizing agricultural production.
This idea that Bernie is an extremist hurts his chances and is, more important, completely wrong. Bernie is where most Americans are on most issues and they'd realize it if they stopped listening to the media and start listening to him.
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You are correct, Bernie is where left should be in a conventional sense but with compromises that Clinton and Obama had to make with the GOP in recent years regarding dialing back on social services, left today looks center left. My comment was based on Bernie as a self described 'democratic sotialist' and we all know what that word evokes.
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08-16-2015, 12:56 PM
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For better or worse, Bernie has no chance. None. Zero. Nada.
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Gotcha!
Quoted so that you can go back and scrub it later when Bernie wins.
And I will rub your nose in it.
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08-16-2015, 12:58 PM
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You are correct, Bernie is where left should be in a conventional sense but with compromises that Clinton and Obama had to make with the GOP in recent years regarding dialing back on social services, left today looks center left.
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Pretty close to the way I see it, only I would call Clinton and Obama center rather than center-left. And if you go by western Europe standards I would argue that they are center-right.
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08-16-2015, 04:53 PM
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Yahoo News- The investigation into Hillary Clinton's private email is being run out of FBI headquarters — and that's unusual.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/invest...182700270.html
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08-16-2015, 05:13 PM
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08-16-2015, 07:25 PM
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One for Bob...
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08-16-2015, 08:45 PM
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Just another old white guy. 
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Just another meaningless insult.
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