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Old 07-22-2015, 07:38 PM
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Read these two:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...a-1022629.html

http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs...s/index_en.htm
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Old 07-22-2015, 08:11 PM
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Who would believe our Financials are more competent than Europe. A byproduct of Wall St. collusion? Makes being screwed by the 1% feel soooo much better.

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Old 07-22-2015, 08:22 PM
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Who would believe our Financials are more competent than Europe. A byproduct of Wall St. collusion? Makes being screwed by the 1% feel soooo much better.

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People have grabbed on to this 1% like a liferaft. Does anyone have the ability to read or gain information and process it?

Is anyone concerned with reality or just taking tidbits and fitting them in to their little preconceived, uninformed, comfortable notions?

Who is screwing you? Are you being prevented from earning more $? Are you being denied something you are owed? Are you sick and can't see a doctor? Been a victim of a crime and can not get justice?
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Old 07-22-2015, 08:30 PM
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Organs for sale, eh? Keep drinking that tea and it'll rot your guts and poison your mind, my friend.

We're talking women choosing to donate tissue for research purposes. This isn't organ harvesting for transplantation like we see in the third world to benefit first worlders who need a kidney or liver. The only monetization involved is recouping the costs associated with storing and transportation.

Don't believe everything you see and hear on YouTube, Jim.

"costs associated with storing and transportation" that must be where the Lamborghini comes into play

No doubt they are skirting the law, if not breaking some.

Time to investigate PP and congress should deny federal funds to PP, yup just like ACORN
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Old 07-22-2015, 08:41 PM
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Who is screwing you? Are you being prevented from earning more $? Are you being denied something you are owed? Are you sick and can't see a doctor? Been a victim of a crime and can not get justic e?
For me it doesn't have to be personal.

The Republicans are screwing the most vulnerable in our society and I hate fucking bullies so that's enough for me.

They are also environmental rapists and I hate them for that.

But I understand that as a conservative you can only relate to things from a me, me, me, me, me, point of view so I'll provide that too.

Paul Ryan among many others wants to cut my Medicare and Social Security.

Rick Scott wants to cut my State of Florida retirement benefits.

And virtually every Republican in congress is trying to start a war with Iran so that they can send my oldest son into harms way.

Any more questions?
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Old 07-22-2015, 08:47 PM
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I give up.

The only thing I can relate to is concern for your son.

The rest is extremism.
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Old 07-22-2015, 08:55 PM
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They are more civilized than us.

And they do things better than us.

But we can learn from them.
Well...we remain the provinces, and we're loaded with provincials. Can we learn from them? One can only learn of one is so inclined. Seems to me our inclinations are in other directions. Hell, we're stillstill debating evolution and that the earth is more than 600 decades old.

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Old 07-22-2015, 08:59 PM
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I give up.

The only thing I can relate to is concern for your son.

The rest is extremism.
Yeah, it's really extreme to expect the United States of America and the State of Florida to come through with the retirement benefits that they promised me and for which I exchanged the best years of my life.

And it's also really extreme to think that the United States of America can provide all of it's citizens decent healthcare like all of western Europe, Canada, Hell even fucking Cuba.

No, we can't afford that.

All we can afford is one useless wasteful trillion dollar war followed by another plus another trillion or so to bail out Wall Street because they made some bad bets with other people's money. That's reasonable.

But what I want, that's extreme.

You know it seems that us Americans are expected to accept all kinds of outrageous crap from the 1% like offshore tax havens, predatory business tactics, having teams of lobbyists and lawyers write legislation, etc. and that's all just fine and dandy, but when it comes to giving the average schmuck an even break, well that's dismissed as "extremism".
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Old 07-22-2015, 09:06 PM
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People have grabbed on to this 1% like a liferaft. Does anyone have the ability to read or gain information and process it?

Is anyone concerned with reality or just taking tidbits and fitting them in to their little preconceived, uninformed, comfortable notions?

Who is screwing you? Are you being prevented from earning more $? Are you being denied something you are owed? Are you sick and can't see a doctor? Been a victim of a crime and can not get justice?
Anyone that doesn't know how the golden rule of economics works is deceiving themselves. Wall Street effectively regulates itself, we have a corrupt for-profit justice system that will never change that obviously favors wealth and lawyers. Our health care system is beholden to an insurance system that can not or will not standardize or minimize costs. Our political system is vulnerable to corruption thru payoffs thanx to business as usual, and we are lied to constantly for our votes. Politicians purposely divide us with lies to get our votes and keep us in their thrall thru religion, racism and xenophobia. It goes on and on. The one constant is that cheap labor is a paramount priority resource, and the system is rigged to keep it so by whatever means necessary. None of that soshialistic organized labor, joint ownership, or profit sharing for us, no siree, as long as management and Wall Street investors can maximize their profits with minimal wages.
The few progressive run companies are a good example but not by far the norm.

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Old 07-22-2015, 09:11 PM
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I give up.

The only thing I can relate to is concern for your son.

The rest is extremism.
I hope you are being sarcastic. I am Tom's age and whereas I am not dependent on state support nor draw a pension, I do know that I am either screwed or on my own at the current rate of 'entitlement cuts'.

How can you justify the GOP congress cutting taxes for those who can most afford yet cut every conceivable social safety net program for those who really need it. Quite interesting that you listed the current gasoline prices in Europe but not their social programs.
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