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Old 07-22-2015, 12:38 PM
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Maybe because I'm a woman, this seems so personal to me..... I don't know. From what I know about PP.... Abortions are a very minor part of the services they offer.
Their biggest role, in my opinion, is education and preventative care.
Absolutely, and if I might be so bold...the right's entire pro-life position is so riddled with hypocrisy as to make it completely untenable.

Two issues, for instance.

First, the right is endlessly bleating about abortion coverage under the ACA. When back in 2003 a Kaiser Family Foundation survey found that 46% of covered workers had full access to abortion services, paid for, in part, by conservative pro-lifer's own premiums. On top of that, in 2010 Kaiser determined that 3 in 10 employers reported that their programs covered elective abortion, and the balance of 70%, declined to answer either way. Kaiser estimated that at least half of those had policies that covered elective abortion, but would not report it for fear of backlash from pro-life groups. So...right-wingjobs, the health employer sponsored health insurance you love so much is probably paying for plenty of elective abortions. Do they know it? I say they good and goddamn well know it...It's just a little inconvenient to admit it.

Next...all life is sacred, they say. So all those embryos belonging to conservative couples who have no need for them anymore and that are being destroyed every day with no objection by the couples or by so many pro-life activists...why are those babies not sacred?

Hypocrisy abounds

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Old 07-22-2015, 01:30 PM
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Old 07-22-2015, 01:39 PM
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Margaret Sanger was a tad suspect - give her publications an objective read.

Just read them and see what you think - it doesn't matter what the media - left or right - thinks - they need to sell toothpaste - it matters what you make of what she wrote.
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Old 07-22-2015, 01:44 PM
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Will you enlighten us on the whole conversation that took place? I'm curious to see the context of her remarks.
The video is so jiggered that what you ask isn't possible unless O'Keefe's girlfriend turns over all the footage.
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Margaret Sanger was a tad suspect - give her publications an objective read.

Just read them and see what you think - it doesn't matter what the media - left or right - thinks - they need to sell toothpaste - it matters what you make of what she wrote.
I'm curious, what does Sanger have to do with the modern day Planned Parenthood?
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Old 07-22-2015, 01:52 PM
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I'm curious, what does Sanger have to do with the modern day Planned Parenthood?
I hope very little - but I am suspicious of everything.
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Old 07-22-2015, 01:55 PM
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I hope very little - but I am suspicious of everything.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger

Yeah, I know it's those commie leftists at Wikipedia.
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Old 07-22-2015, 01:59 PM
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I hope very little - but I am suspicious of everything.
Or as we say in plain 'ol English...nothing.
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Old 07-22-2015, 01:59 PM
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Wikipedia is an unreliable source - get a JStor account and read thousands of academic/scientific journals - read the works of the authors, not what some internet person thinks of the works of the authors.
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Wiki seems ok with Margaret Sanger.

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