The Boy Scouts Lift Ban...

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I agree, but there is something a little strange about a grown man that wants to be around a bunch of kids. I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw a 1957 Buick Engine block.

It has nothing to do with the gay thing either.

These dudes that want to coach girls sports teams also need to be watched.

It always puzzle me why anyone would want to be subjected to the possible
perils of such positions.

[barbara]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I agree, but there is something a little strange about a grown man that wants to be around a bunch of kids. I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw a 1957 Buick Engine block.



It has nothing to do with the gay thing either.



These dudes that want to coach girls sports teams also need to be watched.

Without adult volunteers.... Many activities would not survive.
I can understand why parents would coach a little league team or be a scout leader while their children were involved in those activities. Or, a young adult who wants to work in sports and wants to build a resume for his future.

There are legitimate reasons why an adult would get involved with a bunch of kids.


As an aside.... My (twin) boys played little league and husband volunteered to be the umpire. Boys were on different teams that happened to be playing each other that day. One son pitched the ball... The hitter hit the ball and the ball went straight up into the air. Son who was the pitcher went for it.... Son who was the catcher went for it. There was a big stir of dust and all we could see were arms and legs in a scuffle. The fans (other parents) were shouting and cheering...... Husband went in to make the call as the dust started to settle.... There was a slight moment of silence as the crowd anticipated the umpire's decision........

As far as I was concerned.... I was going home with one happy kid and one not so happy kid and a husband stuck in the middle.

That was the last game he umpired.

[matteos]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I agree, but there is something a little strange about a grown man that wants to be around a bunch of kids. I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw a 1957 Buick Engine block.

It has nothing to do with the gay thing either.

These dudes that want to coach girls sports teams also need to be watched.

I very much disagree.. I was in both the cubs and the scouts... My friends Dad who was also my Primary school teacher became scout master... He didn't particularly want to do it, but the old one quit and there was no one else (My buddy was in school with me from Primary to High school and was also in the Scouts).

And he was good at it, everybody had fun and learnt things etc..

Saw my buddy last year after a ten year gap (He was visiting LA).. He told me his Dad came out as gay and was now shacked up with a dude... I don't think my buddy had taken this particularly well.. It was a very big shock to him and to me frankly.. The way he had conducted himself as a teacher and as a scout master was BEYOND reproach... My buddy said people had started to gossip about his Dad and insinuate he was a kiddy fiddler etc (This only occurred AFTER he came out.. Some 15 years later).. That sickens me. This man was absolutely no such thing, but because he came out as gay when he was older and society was more accepting he gets tarred with that brush even though he gave up his time to teach kids without being paid.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I agree, but there is something a little strange about a grown man that wants to be around a bunch of kids. I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw a 1957 Buick Engine block.

It has nothing to do with the gay thing either.

These dudes that want to coach girls sports teams also need to be watched.

Your comment reminds me of something Norman Mailer once said about our gender. "It doesn't matter how old a guy gets...most of us will always have 17 year old eyes."

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by matteos

I very much disagree.. I was in both the cubs and the scouts...

I was never in either one.

We were too poor for me to join.

I always thought they were kind of creepy anyway.

They remind me of the Hitler Youth league.

Maybe some sour grapes and envy involved.

[catswiththum]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I was never in either one.

We were too poor for me to join.

I always thought they were kind of creepy anyway.

They remind me of the Hitler Youth league.

Maybe some sour grapes and envy involved.

You didn't miss anything - all we ever did was go out to the National Forest in 100 degree heat and plant trees. Big whoo. Free labor for the Department of the Interior.

[matteos]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I was never in either one.

We were too poor for me to join.

I always thought they were kind of creepy anyway.

They remind me of the Hitler Youth league.

Maybe some sour grapes and envy involved.

I grew up in a village. There was no entertainment.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I didn't think we would see this for some years. Maybe we're further along than I thought.

About 47% of us are.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by matteos

I very much disagree.. I was in both the cubs and the scouts... My friends Dad who was also my Primary school teacher became scout master... He didn't particularly want to do it, but the old one quit and there was no one else (My buddy was in school with me from Primary to High school and was also in the Scouts).

And he was good at it, everybody had fun and learnt things etc..

Saw my buddy last year after a ten year gap (He was visiting LA).. He told me his Dad came out as gay and was now shacked up with a dude... I don't think my buddy had taken this particularly well.. It was a very big shock to him and to me frankly.. The way he had conducted himself as a teacher and as a scout master was BEYOND reproach... My buddy said people had started to gossip about his Dad and insinuate he was a kiddy fiddler etc (This only occurred AFTER he came out.. Some 15 years later).. That sickens me. This man was absolutely no such thing, but because he came out as gay when he was older and society was more accepting he gets tarred with that brush even though he gave up his time to teach kids without being paid.

Which supports Pio's observation that the sexual orientation of a scoutmaster shouldn't - and overwhelmingly doesn't - make any difference at all.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Your comment reminds me of something Norman Mailer once said about our gender. "It doesn't matter how old a guy gets...most of us will always have 17 year old eyes."

I sure as hell do!

And I'm at that age where all the pretty young women I pass on the street give me a warm smile.

How come that never happened when I was their age?