Baltimore Mom Not Having Any Of This Shit.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Zeke

I'm not certain what I espouse is "extreme."

For example, a popular board opinion is that an arrest, due to a slanted system, is de facto judging because no minority could ever, possibly, receive fair treatment in our criminal justice system.

If an officer can stop criminal behavior without an arrest? Using means similar to what our "heroic" mother has done? Potentially teaching a lesson prior to the formality of charges?

I'm not immediately perceiving a negative, unless you're willing to hold this kid's mother to the same standard of judgment (overbearing) due to her actions.

If cops doing such a thing is wrong, so is she.

We can all have opinions about it, but in the end, it's none of your fucking business how anybody parents their children...not until they start asking you for feedback, or until you start as a caseworker for Child Protective Services.

It's everybody's fucking business how the police behave. Or maybe you don't think the cops work for the rest of us, eh?

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Or maybe you don't think the cops work for the rest of us, eh?

Of course he doesn't. He thinks the cops work for "the duly constituted governmental authority" and that the cops' job is to make the rest of us "comply" with the dictates of that authority..... or die.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

"Probably not so great earlier on..."??? How TF do either one of you presume to know anything about it? Either one of you been a single black mom doing her best to bring up a son rightly in some shithole neighborhood in Baltimore? The blonde taught in a west side Chicago elementary school for over 15 years. It was heartbreaking for her to see some of the most dedicated, and appropriate mothers with sons who ended up gangbanging or otherwise in trouble with the law. They did everything they could to provide the opportunity for their son to take a positive direction, and it didn't happen.

Wouldn't have been there to begin with...my ass.

You think a lot of you limited experiences and less than insightful evaluations is my considered opinion.

You are clearly from the Sarah Palin camp of justifying failed parenting. I am not.

peace

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by noonereal

You are clearly from the Sarah Palin camp of justifying failed parenting. I am not.

peace

Jeeze! That's really cold, Ed! Even I wouldn't associate Ike with Palin!

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Zeke

I'm not certain what I espouse is "extreme."

For example, a popular board opinion is that an arrest, due to a slanted system, is de facto judging because no minority could ever, possibly, receive fair treatment in our criminal justice system.

If an officer can stop criminal behavior without an arrest? Using means similar to what our "heroic" mother has done? Potentially teaching a lesson prior to the formality of charges?

I'm not immediately perceiving a negative, unless you're willing to hold this kid's mother to the same standard of judgment (overbearing) due to her actions.

If cops doing such a thing is wrong, so is she.

Two things,

1 I clearly took issue with what the mom did. The intent I respected.

2 I see no such intent from the police in general and as you point out, in being consistent, I see no good of a cop doing what the mom did either.

But that is besides the point. An actual policy of corporal education at the discretion of the police is a clear recipe for disaster. Will you debate this?

and yeah, maybe I am wrong but I see your views as being "pushed" into extreme but the "hostile crowd" here.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Jeeze! That's really cold, Ed! Even I wouldn't associate Ike with Palin!

Ike is OK for a miserable bitch.

He was doing faily well but the post I responded to he did not follow exactly and lashed out irresponsibly.

What could i DO?

hE HAS YET TO EARN THE RESPECT i HAVE FOR YOU, Pat, Rob, Dave, Zeke, John, Don...

(typo not yelling)

[barbara]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Ever caught your child masked and participating in a mob action, eh barbara? How TF do you know how you would "behave?"

Once again Ike doesn't comprehend a post and lashes out.

Go back and read what I wrote, boy.... I stated that I understood her reaction given the heat of the moment.....

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Yeah. I mean, why is what this mother did to her son any different from what the cops did to Freddie Gray? Get real, people!

We'll have to wait and see if the kid dies from the injuries he sustained.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by barbara

Once again Ike doesn't comprehend a post and lashes out.

Go back and read what I wrote, boy.... I stated that I understood her reaction given the heat of the moment.....

let it go... Ike is a big time investor who worked hard and earned it.

for the state I believe

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by noonereal

Ike is OK for a miserable bitch.

He was doing faily well but the post I responded to he did not follow exactly and lashed out irresponsibly.

What could i DO?

hE HAS YET TO EARN THE RESPECT i HAVE FOR YOU, Pat, Rob, Dave, Zeke, John, Don...

(typo not yelling)

I think Ike was forced to eat Chicago deep dish pizza with a knife & fork growing up.