Baltimore Mom Not Having Any Of This Shit.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Zeke

If an officer had bitch slapped them earlier, said offenders may not have received the treatment they EARNED, later.

sometimes one's views become extreme in defense of an unpopular position

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I think policing should be neither instructional nor judicial.

Make the arrest, don't attempt to teach nor judge.

this is my humble opinion my beleaguered friend.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

He was definitely old enough to know better. And who should have taught him when he was younger?
So Mom did good this time, but probably not so great earlier on, or he wouldn't have been out there to begin with.

Raising a kid isn't the same as training a dog.

And I certainly hope he will still get charged. No excuse, his identity is known and his mother has already stated she saw him on TV chucking rocks at cops.

Bad dog!

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by noonereal

I saw bones broken in the classroom by teachers... I saw no kids learning from this as it never ended the behaviors or pummeling. Well, except on occasion, a teacher learned to keep his hands to himself after a particularly brutal assault.

I don't know. I'll bet they learned to hate school. And teachers. And any form of authority figure. And probably learning. And maybe even critical thinking.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Boreas

What are you saying here, Ike? That, the more more violent the offense, the more violent the punishment?

Is that what I said? No...that's what you're saying, John.

Originally Posted by Boreas

Or are you saying that the mother should be "excused" for a violent over-reaction since the activities of her son were so extreme?

You're saying it was a "violent over-reaction" not me, John. You're doing an awful lot of talking for me in this post. It would serve you well to just speak for yourself once in a while...John. How's about you try keeping your words in your own festering piehole, eh?

As far as I'm concerned this mother saw a legitimate next step for her son being lying face down in the street with 8 bullet holes in his back, if not from some other gangbanger, from the cops. So who TF are you to decide what the appropriate intervention for a single black mom oughta be in the face of that?

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

He was definitely old enough to know better. And who should have taught him when he was younger?
So Mom did good this time, but probably not so great earlier on, or he wouldn't have been out there to begin with.

you are learning...

good stuff

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by noonereal

sometimes one's views become extreme in defense of an unpopular position

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I think policing should be neither instructional nor judicial.

Make the arrest, don't attempt to teach nor judge.

this is my humble opinion my beleaguered friend.

I'm not certain what I espouse is "extreme."

For example, a popular board opinion is that an arrest, due to a slanted system, is de facto judging because no minority could ever, possibly, receive fair treatment in our criminal justice system.

If an officer can stop criminal behavior without an arrest? Using means similar to what our "heroic" mother has done? Potentially teaching a lesson prior to the formality of charges?

I'm not immediately perceiving a negative, unless you're willing to hold this kid's mother to the same standard of judgment (overbearing) due to her actions.

If cops doing such a thing is wrong, so is she.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

He was definitely old enough to know better. And who should have taught him when he was younger?
So Mom did good this time, but probably not so great earlier on, or he wouldn't have been out there to begin with.

Originally Posted by noonereal

you are learning...

good stuff

"Probably not so great earlier on..."??? How TF do either one of you presume to know anything about it? Either one of you been a single black mom doing her best to bring up a son rightly in some shithole neighborhood in Baltimore? The blonde taught in a west side Chicago elementary school for over 15 years. It was heartbreaking for her to see some of the most dedicated, and appropriate mothers with sons who ended up gangbanging or otherwise in trouble with the law. They did everything they could to provide the opportunity for their son to take a positive direction, and it didn't happen.

Wouldn't have been there to begin with...my ass.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Is that what I said? No...that's what you're saying, John.



You're saying it was a "violent over-reaction" not me, John. You're doing an awful lot of talking for me in this post. It would serve you well to just speak for yourself once in a while...John. How's about you try keeping your words in your own festering piehole, eh?

As far as I'm concerned this mother saw a legitimate next step for her son being lying face down in the street with 8 bullet holes in his back, if not from some other gangbanger, from the cops. So who TF are you to decide what the appropriate intervention for a single black mom oughta be in the face of that?

Just askin'.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Just askin'.

You're never "...just askin'...", john.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

You're never "...just askin'...", john.

You always say that, Ike.