Hillary For President

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by whell

When Cruz starts raising that kind of money - including significant cash from foreign entities - and refiling years worth of tax returns, I'll start getting concerned.

So, you're a Cruz man. Best of luck with that.

[glen65]

Originally Posted by bobabode

So, you're a Cruz man. Best of luck with that.

There is no luck with that.
Cruz will never get the nomination from the GOP.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Yes, but do we know that she did that?

She served on the inter-governmental Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States whose responsibility it was to review and approve the deal.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us...m-company.html

This would be akin to me sitting on a DoD Source Selection Board (which I have many times) while my wife was taking $500K to speak at an annual meeting of one of the companies under consideration by the Board.

I'm having a real hard time understanding why anyone would have difficulty understanding the conflict of interest Hillary and Bill's actions represent. Hell, the administration recognized such potential problems in advance and signed an MOU with Hillary to avoid/report such actions and she failed to comply with this explicit agreement.

I have no sympathy for her position, perhaps because avoidance of such conflicts was drilled into my head annually for about 25 years as a Contracting Officer and a high-level Federal manager. Admittedly, there are grey areas in Federal conflict-of-interest laws, but this isn't remotely close to being a grey area. Even without the specifics of the Russian Uranium issue, having a Secretary of State's spouse and his foundation accepting millions of dollars from foreign governments (whether friendly governments or otherwise) is profoundly wrong.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I'm having a real hard time understanding why anyone would have difficulty understanding the conflict of interest Hillary and Bill's actions represent.

Oh, if another Democrat, especially a progressive one, gets some traction, I'll drop Hillary like a hot rock!

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by icenine

so many smoking guns, so few indictments lol

The right has cried wolf so many times, they'll believe anything nefarious about the Clintons', no matter how tenuous. It's gotten to the point that Hillary could be caught redhanded performing satanic rituals by the light of the full moon, drinking the blood of babies and throwing virgins into a volcano these days and it would still get a giant collective yawn from the voters.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by glen65

There is no luck with that.
Cruz will never get the nomination from the GOP.

Will JE Bush?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by bobabode

The right has cried wolf so many times, they'll believe anything nefarious about the Clintons', no matter how tenuous. It's gotten to the point that Hillary could be caught redhanded performing satanic rituals by the light of the full moon, drinking the blood of babies and throwing virgins into a volcano these days and still get a giant collective yawn from the voters.

Doesn't this list of donors and amounts associated with the Russian deal trouble you?

Frank Giustra
$31.3 million and a pledge for $100 million more
He built a company that later merged with Uranium One.

Ian Telfer
$2.35 million
Mining investor who was chairman of Uranium One when an arm of the Russian government, Rosatom, acquired it.

Paul Reynolds
$1 million to $5 million
Adviser on 2007 UrAsia-Uranium One merger. Later helped raise $260 million for the company.

Frank Holmes
$250,000 to $500,000
Chief Executive of U.S. Global Investors Inc., which held $4.7 million in Uranium One shares in the first quarter of 2011.

Neil Woodyer
$50,000 to $100,000
Adviser to Uranium One. Founded Endeavour Mining with Mr. Giustra.

GMP Securities Ltd.
Donating portion of profits
Worked on debt issue that raised $260 million for Uranium One.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us...m-company.html

[glen65]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Oh, if another Democrat, especially a progressive one, gets some traction, I'll drop Hillary like a hot rock!

The same argument that Hillary is a shoe was being made back on 06 and 07.
Then someone came up and unexpectedly robbed poor Hillary of her prize, Lol.

[glen65]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Will JE Bush?

"Currently", that's who I would put my bet on. But there are bound to be others to enter the race.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Doesn't this list of donors and amounts associated with the Russian deal trouble you?

Frank Giustra
$31.3 million and a pledge for $100 million more
He built a company that later merged with Uranium One.

Ian Telfer
$2.35 million
Mining investor who was chairman of Uranium One when an arm of the Russian government, Rosatom, acquired it.

Paul Reynolds
$1 million to $5 million
Adviser on 2007 UrAsia-Uranium One merger. Later helped raise $260 million for the company.

Frank Holmes
$250,000 to $500,000
Chief Executive of U.S. Global Investors Inc., which held $4.7 million in Uranium One shares in the first quarter of 2011.

Neil Woodyer
$50,000 to $100,000
Adviser to Uranium One. Founded Endeavour Mining with Mr. Giustra.

GMP Securities Ltd.
Donating portion of profits
Worked on debt issue that raised $260 million for Uranium One.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us...m-company.html

Are you really trying to say that donations to CGI are somehow equivalent to campaign contributions or personal income? AFAIK, Bill's half mill speaking fee went directly into CGI's coffers defusing the conflict of interest charge.

What troubles me deeply is how McCutcheon v FEC and Citizens United were decided by the conservative led SCOTUS. Hillary is the only candidate who has come out in favor of constitutional amendment rolling back this Republican wet dream that corporations are people and money is speech.