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04-22-2015, 10:37 AM
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So what do you think is their strategy/game plan?
Alienate the 47% to the point where they don't vote (voter suppresion) or you predict that the 47% is going to get turned off against the GOP candidate. I can see this go either way though in the end this will all come down to the swing states, money and negative advertising.
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I think they will be turned off with the agenda of Adelson and the Koch's being promoted. But then I would have thought the real Republicans would have taken their party back by now too.
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04-22-2015, 12:59 PM
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I think they will be turned off with the agenda of Adelson and the Koch's being promoted. But then I would have thought the real Republicans would have taken their party back by now too. 
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I think the average Republican voter doesn't devote a lot of time to searching for and examining the agenda or the powerful individuals behind the candidates and their campaign rhetoric. As long as the message triggers the correct emotional response, they're totally on board.
Democratic voters are only marginally better, IMO, mostly because what appeals to them are issues concerning overall social benefit and progress.
"Real Republicans" have left the party. They've given it up as a lost cause. Most are self-identified as "Independents" and a few have actually become Democrats. Younger voters, who came of age during the Tea Party era and who might otherwise have been mainstream Republicans are aligning themselves with the Libertarian Party and, to a lesser extent, the Democrats.
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04-22-2015, 05:17 PM
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Rand Paul's clunkers.
RayBan tells his campaign to stop ruining their brand.
No surprise that a serial plagiarist and all around douchebag of the libertarian persuasion would try to capitalize on JFK's favorite model of sunglasses.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...campaign-store
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04-22-2015, 05:31 PM
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Why would a Libertarian give two shits about someone else's trademark?
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04-23-2015, 04:45 PM
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The list speaks for itself.
1. Jeb Bush (former FL governor)
2. John Bolton (former UN ambassador)
3. Sam Brownback (former congressman, KS governor)
4. Ben Carson (neurosurgeon)
5. Chris Christie (NJ governor)
6. Ted Cruz (senator, R TX)
7. Bob Erlich (former congressman, former MD governor)
8. Carly Fiorina (former {fired} Hewlett Packard CEO)
9. Jim Gilmore (former VA governor)
10. Lindsey Graham (confirmed bachelor, senator, R SC)
11. Mike Huckabee (preacher, talk show host, former AR governor)
12. Bobby Jindal (governor LA)
13. John Kasich (former congressman, OH governor)
14. Peter King (congressman, R NY2)
15. Michael Lynch (right wing filmmaker)
16. George Pataki (former NY governor)
17. Rand Paul (senator, R KY)
18. Rick Perry (former governor, TX)
19. Marco Rubio (senator, R FL)
20. Rick Santorum (former senator, R PA)
21. Donald Trump (real estate developer)
22. Scott Walker (governor, WI)
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Which ones get to play scary clown? oh wait they all are scary!
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04-23-2015, 05:26 PM
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04-23-2015, 08:33 PM
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"Real Republicans" have left the party. They've given it up as a lost cause. Most are self-identified as "Independents" and a few have actually become Democrats. Younger voters, who came of age during the Tea Party era and who might otherwise have been mainstream Republicans are aligning themselves with the Libertarian Party and, to a lesser extent, the Democrats.
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Exactly.
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04-24-2015, 02:37 AM
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If "lost causes are the only ones worth fighting for" I'd bet there are still plenty of the good type of Republican still in the party.
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04-24-2015, 09:38 AM
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You're not giving the GOPers anywhere near enough credit. They have an endless supply of nut cases. The Klown Kar has a whole bunch of new passengers, some Krazier than in 2012. To name but a few, there's Cruz and Christie and Paul the Younger and  Bolton  Fiorina too but she ran for the Senate last time.
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There's a few on the list I don't know much about like Pataki and King.
Fiorna? Carly Fiorina......another incompetent member of Americas business community like Trump. Trump couldn't make money running a CASINO. How do you f**k up running a casino? That takes a special kind of idiot. When are the Republicans going to put up a candidate that actually built a great business and created tens of thousands of American jobs, rather than ones that simply took over an existing business, f**ed t up and/or outsourced thousands of American jobs?
It's like the GOP has become a Wailing Wall for lousy businesspeople who blame the rest of the world for their failures. Oh, but, of course we see the trick...........
Shutting down operations and laying off thousands is.......wait for it.........SUCCESS! You heard that right, folks. Ruined communities and long unemployment lines are a sign that bold and decisive business "leaders" are doing their job!
Yeah, I know-----
Dave
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04-24-2015, 09:46 AM
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The power of TV is waning, newspapers are history and now it's all social media.
The one that can tweet with the best can waltz into the White House, a scary thought.
The power wielded by Facebook and Twitter is astounding.
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