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04-18-2015, 02:03 PM
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1. You're trained.
2. You make a situational call.
This isn't complex.
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This is ridiculously vague and over-simplified.
So you're saying that because a cop is 'trained' and 'makes a situational call,' he can kill anyone on whim, right?
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04-18-2015, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
This is ridiculously vague and over-simplified.
So you're saying that because a cop is 'trained' and 'makes a situational call,' he can kill anyone on whim, right?
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Depends upon the threat to self or public that is interpreted.
THAT'S THE JOB.
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04-18-2015, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeke
What he didn't say is that the offender wasn't a potential danger to the officer or society at large.
There is no protocol when an offender drags you into the rabbit hole, beyond survival.
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Acting obtuse suits you Zeke...or maybe you weren't acting, eh? When he said Slager did not follow protocol he was stating that Slager had no grounds for assuming Scott was a danger to anybody. And Scott wasn't dragging anybody anywhere...he was unarmed and running away. So both your comments are inane...and even farther out in lunatic fringe territory.
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04-18-2015, 03:18 PM
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1. That's NOT what he was saying.
2. The offender generated the danger, the offender gets the result.
Watch and see.
EDIT: Francis Pusok is a convicted felon with misdemeanor and felony convictions including resisting arrest, animal cruelty and attempted robbery. He was well known by Deputies and can READILY be characterized as inherently violent.
It is what it is.
Walter Scott? Even MORE lameness from folks like you. Not in dispute?
* Legal, reasonable stop for the tail light infraction.
* Mr. Scott exits the car, against the officer's verbal directions, and flees.
* Prolonged foot pursuit ensues.
* Physical altercation between Officer Slager and Mr. Scott – felony assault on a police officer.
Potential areas of (minor) concern?
* Officer Slager's taser has been put in use; a lead wire appears to extend from the officer's chest area. Was Officer Slager shot by Mr. Scott with his own taser, or was the wire simply tangled up with Officer Slager after being deployed during the physical altercation?
* Mr. Scott is entangled in the taser wires and flees, dragging the taser's charge cartridge along behind him. The taser shell remains on the ground behind Officer Slager as he fires his handgun at Mr. Scott.
Either way?
Slager's going nowhere. That the situation devolved is on the offender.
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04-18-2015, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeke
Depends upon the threat to self or public that is interpreted.
THAT'S THE JOB.
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Here's what's gonna happen Zeke. Slager is going to have to testify because his only defense will be what his thinking was. And when Slager tells the jury he thought Scott was a danger to humanity at large they will know he's lying through his teeth to save his ass.
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04-18-2015, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Ike Bana
Here's what's gonna happen Zeke. Slager is going to have to testify because his only defense will be what his thinking was. And when Slager tells the jury he thought Scott was a danger to humanity at large they will know he's lying through his teeth to save his ass.
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Before or after he's exonerated?
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04-18-2015, 07:31 PM
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He has already been fired, Zeke.
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04-18-2015, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by sheltiedave
He has already been fired, Zeke.
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That's essentially meaningless.
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04-19-2015, 10:12 AM
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He was fired for cause, ie disobeying arrest protocol and shooting an unarmed suspect in the back, which has been found by the US Supreme Court to be unconstitutional and a violation of due process.
Your "essentially meaningless" is a situation that will result in numerous federal felony charges.
I understand how victimized you must feel, however, knowing that the state of Oklahoma and its municipalities would rather have a fat, decrepit, untrained, sycophantic 73 year old white moneybags screwup officer over a highly trained, multi-degreed, bilingual, up and coming post officer to kill their escaping felons.
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04-19-2015, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by sheltiedave
the state of Oklahoma and its municipalities would rather have a fat, decrepit, untrained, syncophatic 73 year old white moneybags screwup officer
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I just can't help it.
The idea of a 73 year old rookie cop just floors me.
I mean I don't believe in age discrimination, but Jesus Christ!
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