FBI probing possible civil right violations in California videotaped beating

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Zeke

It's completely what I said.

But actually committing to that vigilance means failure to comply with the necessary paradigm should lead to forced subordination.

This is still seriously fucked up but, to repeat, it's not what you said. This is.

"When the needs of the populace are to be appropriately policed, they should subordinate themselves.

"Failure to do demands consequence."

In other words, the "populace" must, in advance and as a "default position", accept a subordinate status in order for the police to function in the manner which they deem appropriate. A society where the citizenry is forced into a subservient position by police power and authority is, by definition, a police state.

And don't give me that weak police state bullshit. It's only a police state when you're not passing the laws...

What does this even mean? "We" never pass laws. Our elected representatives do and they most emphatically don't always do so in the best interests of those they're sworn to serve. In that sense, that of being faithless servants, they're very like the police.

[Zeke]

You're not even close.

"When the needs of the populace are to be appropriately policed, they should subordinate themselves.

Failure to do demands consequence."

Completely accurate. How to avoid it? Don't be part of a population demanding that need.

If you don't like you representatives? Vote for a different one.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Boreas

What does this even mean? "We" never pass laws. Our elected representatives do and they most emphatically don't always do so in the best interests of those they're sworn to serve. In that sense, that of being faithless servants, they're very like the police.

What does it matter what the law is if the Police aren't accountable to it?

The problem is Police routinely act outside the law and get away with it.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Zeke

You're not even close.

"When the needs of the populace are to be appropriately policed, they should subordinate themselves.

Failure to do demands consequence."

Completely accurate. How to avoid it? Don't be part of a population demanding that need.

Not that it really matters but you're back-tracking. Your original post didn't limit this subordination to to only a segment of the population (which I take to be anyone the police feel like jacking up). And a suspect is just that. They have a right not to be treated like a convicted criminal.

If you don't like you representatives? Vote for a different one.

Uh-huh. And what if I don't like my cops? Tough shit, right?

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Yes.

Criminal activity should cause individuals to be placed in a lower rank or position than law abiding citizens.

If folks don't like that, they should redefine criminal activity not those who enforce it.

But you did not stipulate who is to be subservient, from what you wrote it could be the whole population. Let's see I went through a stop sign once and I was warned after doing 100 MPH in a 60MPH zone - oh but that was Canada so I guess it does not count but I am damned if I will be subservient to any man.

[Zeke]

Backtracking? Not even.

It's not my fault some of you are apologist candy asses supporting those who deserve not a champion save for those who would demand citizens act like humans and not vermin.

Folks should embrace such paladins.

[hillbilly]

Not a wrongful shooting or beating case, but two police chiefs, and a sheriff are under the heat in middle TN.

One chief ( salary employee ) received 19k in overtime pay, which is a no no. It was on the local news, can't say the true or false verdict, but they showed the records on tv.

Another chief is out the door because of having a business and your not allowed to devote your time to anything other than your police work in or outside the department long as you still hold the job.

And a sheriff on the news as well for collecting 25% of sales for every ipad sold to inmates. And something about allowing e-smokes in jail too, and someone in his family being in that type of business dealing with e-smokes.

Gosh, cops on the news alot lately.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Backtracking? Not even.

It's not my fault some of you are apologist candy asses supporting those who deserve not a champion save for those who would demand citizens act like humans and not vermin.

Folks should embrace such paladins.

Seems the people acting like vermin lately are the cops and the only apologist I see is you and your "cops can do no wrong" BS.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Backtracking? Not even.

It's not my fault some of you are apologist candy asses supporting those who deserve not a champion save for those who would demand citizens act like humans and not vermin.

Folks should embrace such paladins.

Really? I'd rather see that bastard hang.

[Zeke]

Regarding such situations, you mean the criminal, right?

That's not the officer.