FBI probing possible civil right violations in California videotaped beating

[merrylander]

Well folks I give up on this one as Zeke has gone totally over the edge.

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by Zeke

When the needs of the populace are to be appropriately policed, they should subordinate themselves.

Failure to do demands consequence.

Are you making a point directed at Bana by any chance?

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Zeke

That's fucking bullshit, alarmist, reactionary, short-sighted, scare tactic, dumb and pandering.

And...

Originally Posted by Zeke

When the needs of the populace are to be appropriately policed, they should subordinate themselves.

...isn't.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Well folks I give up on this one as Zeke has gone totally over the edge.

Zeke is like a character in a Coen brothers movie. Jamming himself up in some stupid position and with every reaction, taking a series of increasingly more stupid positions.

[Zeke]

If by "stupidity" you mean acknowledging that modern society demands a certain vigilance in terms of policing it?

Anything else is naive.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Zeke

If by "stupidity" you mean acknowledging that modern society demands a certain vigilance in terms of policing it?

Anything else is naive.

Except that's not what you said.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Except that's not what you said.

It's completely what I said.

But actually committing to that vigilance means failure to comply with the necessary paradigm should lead to forced subordination.

And don't give me that weak police state bullshit. It's only a police state when you're not passing the laws...

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Are you shitting me? As I'm sure you realize, what you're advocating here is literally a police state.

The way I see it, dark skinned males, especially the younger, poorer ones, are already living in a Police State.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Zeke

It's completely what I said.

But actually committing to that vigilance means failure to comply with the necessary paradigm should lead to forced subordination.

And don't give me that weak police state bullshit. It's only a police state when you're not passing the laws...

You usually choose your words carefully so I gather this is what you meant by subordination.

noun
1.
the act of placing in a lower rank or position:
The refusal to allow women to be educated was part of society's subordination of women to men.
2.
the act subordinating, or of making dependent, secondary, or subservient.
3.
the condition of being subordinated, or made dependent, secondary, or subservient.

[Zeke]

Yes.

Criminal activity should cause individuals to be placed in a lower rank or position than law abiding citizens.

If folks don't like that, they should redefine criminal activity not those who enforce it.