FBI probing possible civil right violations in California videotaped beating

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by noonereal

take the guns away is the only reasonable ansewer

Guns are merely tools, I don't find this idea offensive: but you're going to need to take them from the population, too.

And you're STILL going to require 2-3% of officers armed for those that refuse to acquiesce to law.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by noonereal

cops kick handcuffed suspects who are on the ground as a matter of course

this is old as the hills

it's just how arrests are done, at lease out here in NY/NJ

I'm sure it is.

But hopefully that will change.

I figure that now maybe one out of a thousand of these cases are ending up on video. That's better than zero out of a thousand like it always has been in the past. Cops are already starting to feel a little bit of pressure. With more and more video cameras out there that number will grow. Hopefully, eventually, the public will get sick of seeing this and demand change.

[donquixote99]

Change can happen.

'The way it is' is not permanent.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Guns are merely tools, I don't find this idea offensive: but you're going to need to take them from the population, too.

And you're STILL going to require 2-3% of officers armed for those that refuse to acquiesce to law.

I could live with this.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Change can happen.

'The way it is' is not permanent.

Sometimes it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlRQjzltaMQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFMY4jJ6SVE

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Change can happen.

'The way it is' is not permanent.

If it's ever going to happen in the realm of police misconduct the smartphone is what will set it off. There are obviously fewer flaming cop apologistas, we still have Zeke here and others like him elsewhere on the web. The media has FOX, talk radio, and the government has Louie Gohmert, etc.

But it seems to me it's going to be more and more of this video evidence coming forth. I don't however, anticipate law enforcement shifting their model of purposefully recruiting those with a violent streak anytime soon.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

If it's ever going to happen in the realm of police misconduct the smartphone is what will set it off. There are obviously fewer flaming cop apologistas, we still have Zeke here and others like him elsewhere on the web. The media has FOX, talk radio, and the government has Louie Gohmert, etc.

But it seems to me it's going to be more and more of this video evidence coming forth. I don't however, anticipate law enforcement shifting their model of purposefully recruiting those with a violent streak anytime soon.

Images can be powerful agents of change.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by noonereal

I could live with this.

Plus one. If our cousins in Australia can do it, why can't we?

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Plus one. If our cousins in Australia can do it, why can't we?

Australian Police carry guns.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by noonereal

take the guns away is the only reasonable ansewer

Thats not going to happen in America.

I think the answer is to make police answer to a civilian review board when complaints are made against them.

One that is made up of civilians that actually represent the community.

For example in Ferguson, where 2/3 of the citizens are black, 2/3 of the review board should be black.

Having cops investigate cops is like having the Fox guard the chicken coop.

Of course this idea will make the cops squeal like stuck pigs because it would take away their "Blue Wall" that protects them.