China says no to Frankencorn

[donquixote99]

It is not enough to observe how the government acts. The government (that is, the individuals who decide and do things) don't just roll dice to decide what to do. They have reasons. One must determine what those reasons are, to understand how to alter them.

I'm speaking here of policy and decision-making, not how the government attorney in the video dissed the rubes. That's just personality, with the 'I don't care' attitude of a fireproof civil servant. But he's not a decision-maker. He's not the important guy in that situation--that would be the judge, and whoever the judge listens to.

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

It is not enough to observe how the government acts. The government (that is, the individuals who decide and do things) don't just roll dice to decide what to do. They have reasons. One must determine what those reasons are, to understand how to alter them.

You're right. You need to be actively growing food on a responsible small farm or working on Permaculture projects to understand how bad it's getting.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

You're right. You need to be actively growing food on a responsible small farm or working on Permaculture projects to understand how bad it's getting.

The trouble and sorrow we've seen usually seems special, and it's easy to feel nobody eles knows it, or can know it, or will care. But it's a good idea not to run too far with such assumptions.

[merrylander]

We get our milk from a dairy in PA that absolutely refuses to inject their dairy herd with that Monsanto rBST crap.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

It is not enough to observe how the government acts. The government (that is, the individuals who decide and do things) don't just roll dice to decide what to do. They have reasons. One must determine what those reasons are, to understand how to alter them.

I'm speaking here of policy and decision-making, not how the government attorney in the video dissed the rubes. That's just personality, with the 'I don't care' attitude of a fireproof civil servant. But he's not a decision-maker. He's not the important guy in that situation--that would be the judge, and whoever the judge listens to.

The judge is probably listening to (and taking money from) Agribusiness and corporations such as Monsanto.

[Ike Bana]

First things first. There is no legitimate data based on studies employing legitimate scientific method that suggest that GMO's are dangerous to anybody's health. But some of us will continue to credit those who tell us so. The same head cases who tell us that autism is caused by vaccinations, and who tell us that sugar causes cancer. And bastions of science like collective-evolution.com.

Second thing second. The Chinese apparently have no problem with the products they ship here being full of actual poisons as identified by studies employing actual scientific method.

Lead pain in children's toys.
Diethylene glycol in toothpaste.
Mercury in cosmetic skin creams.
Carbon disulfide, carbonyl sulfide, and hydrogen sulfide in drywall.
And I suppose it's only pets, but anyway...contaminated pet food.

The list goes on and on. I'm sure we ship stuff to China full of stuff that is bad for us. We buy stuff domestically that is full of stuff that is bad for us, or the environment, or that we will find out is bad for us down the road. Toothpaste with plastic micro-beads in it comes immediately to mind.

But genetically modified corn?

[merrylander]

Ike I have no problem with plant 'engineering' as Mendel did it but I would not trust those bastards at Monsanto.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Ike I have no problem with plant 'engineering' as Mendel did it but I would not trust those bastards at Monsanto.

I don't trust most anybody, rob. But I do trust legitimate results from legitimate programs providing research done through legitimate scientific method. A non-partisan organization with a relatively flawless reputation, the National Geographic Society, supports that there is no scientific evidence that genetically engineered corn is dangerous to human health, or that vaccination causes autism, or that the earth is flat...among other nonsense that remarkably high percentages of Americans have decided to believe.

[Boreas]

You understand that the FDA doesn't actually test anything, right? Typically, they make their determinations based solely on the information provided by the manufacturer.

[Ike Bana]

You understand that there are numerous independent scientifically based organizations who have examined the data from studies on GMO's, whether supplied by the industry or not... and not one of them that i can find has made a determination that agrees with the headcase individuals and faux-scientific web pages that GMO's are going to kill us all, or vaccinations will reduce our progeny to hand waving autistics, or any of the rest of it.