Typical - Iran Moves the Goal Posts at the 11th Hour

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

No, it's not. The status of their current stockpile of enriched uranium was an essential point to getting this far in the talks. Its wasn't a bargaining chip - its central to the objective of the entire deal.

It's a bargaining chip, still on the table. Iran will use it to get something they want.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Does anyone here really believe that if Iran does develop a nuclear weapon that they would use it?

No nation state is going use nukes. (unless they feel a first strike renders retaliation impossible) That is part of what was so ridiculous about Bush boy going into Iraq.
Even if Saddam had nukes, he was not gonna use them. Heck, he did not even use his gas when he was annihilated by us.

People are just stupid.

Now, a terror group that embraces suicide as a sacrifice, that is different.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

Post your evidence.

What, again??

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Does anyone here really believe that if Iran does develop a nuclear weapon that they would use it? Crazy as the Ayatollah is I doubt he is suicidal. They know damn well that Israel has them and Bibi sure as hell would not hesitate a second if his radar detected incoming. He is nuts enough to launch first and wait and see what kind of missile it is. Frankly with Bibi at the helm if I was an Iranian I sure as hell woukd want equality.

Whell seems to.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Talking with Libya resulted in them ditching their program. Same goes for South Africa.

As long as Bibi thinks it's a bad deal, it's probably a good deal. His record in predicting events (and prompting US action) in the Mideast equals that of his American Doppelgänger, Dick Cheney.

Bibi thinks it's a bad deal because being the only nuclear state in the region gives Israel the upper hand. An Iranian bomb would be a counterbalance to Israeli power.

[nailer]

Having the bomb is insurance against invasion by an Arab nation. That and being a means to rouse the rabble is what Israel's nuclear capability provides sane leadership.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by nailer

Having the bomb is insurance against invasion by an Arab nation. That and being a means to rouse the rabble is what Israel's nuclear capability provides sane leadership.

And that's all?

[whell]

Originally Posted by noonereal

No nation state is going use nukes. (unless they feel a first strike renders retaliation impossible) That is part of what was so ridiculous about Bush boy going into Iraq.
Even if Saddam had nukes, he was not gonna use them. Heck, he did not even use his gas when he was annihilated by us.

People are just stupid.

Now, a terror group that embraces suicide as a sacrifice, that is different.

Tell that to Putin:

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/w...cle4399758.ece

[whell]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Bibi thinks it's a bad deal because being the only nuclear state in the region gives Israel the upper hand. An Iranian bomb would be a counterbalance to Israeli power.

No it wouldn't. It would be a green light for Iran to play nuclear blackmail. Something they learned from NK.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

No it wouldn't. It would be a green light for Iran to play nuclear blackmail. Something they learned from NK.

The Kims were/are mad. The Iranian mullah's aren't so it's alarmist to the point of hysterical to expect the same sort of behavior from them.