Should Obama visit Ferguson?

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Maybe Obama could come home to Chicago this Spring, set up a big rally in Grant park, walk up to the podium and say..."Why TF are people in Ferguson out in the streets every night when one black kid is killed by one white cop under suspicious circumstances, while here in Chicago dozens of innocent kids are gunned down in gang crossfires and, outside of Father Flager's anti-violence march every year, nobody here seems to give a shit."

Now that would be interesting.

Not really. It's a false equivalency. Cops are supposed to uphold the law. When one doesn't it raises concerns for society which are far different from and more dire than those that arise from a criminal committing a crime.

And could you answer the questions?

[Pio1980]

Ideally, good policing should ensure a community where crime is uncommon and cooperation and trust prevail.

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[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Not really. It's a false equivalency. Cops are supposed to uphold the law. When one doesn't it raises concerns for society which are far different from and more dire than those that arise from a criminal committing a crime.

And could you answer the questions?

False equivalency my ass. Unless you happen to believe that Michael Brown is more dead than Heaven Sutton. Maybe because he was killed by a white cop you think Michael Brown's death was somehow more egregious than 24 kids gunned down in their neighborhoods by their black neighbor gangbangers. Not me. Concerns for society you say? PFFFFffffttt......

Answer the questions??? Far as I know there was only one question. Can I answer that? OK...I'll take a stab at it...no nights of angry street demonstrations over the killings and woundings of black children in Chicago because its gangbangers doing it and its hard to blame white cops? Also to quote Annie Bacon, Jeff Fort's mama, "Not my baby, my baby's a good boy." How we gonna have angry street demo's decrying murderous behavior of hundreds of mama's good baby boys? Darren Wilson makes a much more palatable target for angry street demonstrators, dontcha think... John?

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

False equivalency my ass. Unless you happen to believe that Michael Brown is more dead than Heaven Sutton. Maybe because he was killed by a white cop you think Michael Brown's death was somehow more egregious than 24 kids gunned down in their neighborhoods by their black neighbor gangbangers. Not me. Concerns for society you say? PFFFFffffttt......

Answer the questions??? Far as I know there was only one question. Can I answer that? OK...I'll take a stab at it...no nights of angry street demonstrations over the killings and woundings of black children in Chicago because its gangbangers doing it and its hard to blame white cops? Also to quote Annie Bacon, Jeff Fort's mama, "Not my baby, my baby's a good boy." How we gonna have angry street demo's decrying murderous behavior of hundreds of mama's good baby boys? Darren Wilson makes a much more palatable target for angry street demonstrators, dontcha think... John?

I didn't expect you to agree with me but you're still wrong. There's no equivalency between gangsters doing what we expect them to do and cops doing the opposite of what we pay them to do.

But don't let facts, logic and nuance get in the way of an infantile rant.

And you still haven't answered my questions:

"Why? What do you think that would accomplish? What do these photo ops accomplish, really, and where do you draw the line? Do I get all bent out of shape because he didn't come to my neighborhood and not really care that he didn't visit yours?"

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Boreas

There's no equivalency between gangsters doing what we expect them to do and cops doing the opposite of what we pay them to do.

Cops are paid to eradicate the gangsters.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Cops are paid to eradicate the gangsters.

No, cops are paid to protect the community. I do understand that you see the mission in such narrow terms as you describe since that's where all the "fun" is.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Cops are paid to eradicate the gangsters.

You wish. You'd do it for free. Judge Psycho!

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Boreas

I didn't expect you to agree with me but you're still wrong.

Ditto.

As far as the question(s). Asked and answered. Don't like the answer...tough racoon shit.

But here...maybe this is what you're looking for. It would accomplish nothing. Just like the time we spend at the podium on this forum accomplishes nothing except a few minutes of daily entertainment.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Boreas

No, cops are paid to protect the community. I do understand that you see the mission in such narrow terms as you describe since that's where all the "fun" is.

I actually agree. Cops are paid to protect the community from the gangsters. It's the community's job to eradicate the gangsters from the community. It's always the community's job. And so far, the community is doing a piss poor job of it.

Maybe if Obama zipped his spine back in, retrieved his balls from his other pants, walked up to the podium, any podium anywhere, and said that, it would make something happen...but I kinda fuckin' doubt it.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Ditto.

As far as the question(s). Asked and answered. Don't like the answer...tough racoon shit.

But here...maybe this is what you're looking for. It would accomplish nothing. Just like the time we spend at the podium on this forum accomplishes nothing except a few minutes of daily entertainment.

The time spent in this forum accomplishes exactly as much as any other similar level-of-effort spent thinking and then communicating.

And the meaning of 'raccoon shit' that you are applying to it is, by your 'it's all opinion' conception, as invalid as any other made-up meaning, isn't it?