U.S. Economic Data Have Been the World's Most Disappointing

[Tom Joad]

Ever since Obama took office the right has been hoping and praying for bad things to happen to America so that they can blame it on him. And when bad don't happen they make shit up.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Ever since Obama took office the right has been plotting and scheming for bad things to happen to America so that they can blame it on him. And when bad don't happen they make shit up.

Fixed now.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Ever since Obama took office the right has been hoping and praying for bad things to happen to America so that they can blame it on him. And when bad don't happen they make shit up.

Originally Posted by Boreas

Fixed now.

When you two get done soiling your drawers, kindly point me in the direction of any reference this thread that lays blame on Obama. The screwed up economy and dysfunction inside the beltway is, IMHO, a bipartisan achievement. In fact, the managed interest rates / big spending has been going on consistently and unabated for about 20 years.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Is it the envy of, say, Switzerland?

Actually, the Swiss economy is in a world of trouble right now.

And yes, the American economy is indeed now the envy of the industrialized nations of the world and it has nothing whatsoever to do with anything resembling GOP economic policies.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...-abolition-cap

Either taxes are too low for the rate of US gov't spending....

I agree with you that our tax rates are too low, particularly for those in higher income brackets. I have seen no Republican plans to fix that. To the contrary, they actually want to lower rates on the wealthy even further.

If McCain would have won in 2008 (the same McCain who said our economy was in fine shape on the eve of the crash, BTW), he would have likely done the exact wrong thing to the economy in keeping with GOP supply-side/austerity silliness.

[whell]

Originally Posted by noonereal

Hey Whelly, I saw you and the wife in the park yesterday. Very touching.

Nice to see you too, though it looks like you were pissed off about something, as usual.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by whell

When you two get done soiling your drawers, kindly point me in the direction of any reference this thread that lays blame on Obama.

Don't be insincere whelly.

It's so unbecoming.

Did you think that if you leave something unsaid, nobody is going to call you on the obvious subtext?

We all know what's in your heart.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I agree with you that our tax rates are too low, particularly for those in higher income brackets. I have seen no Republican plans to fix that.

And likewise, you see no Dem plans to address runaway spending. Its a tug of war of priorities. On the right, its viewed as "stop spending money we don't have." While you can certainly lambaste Bush for continuing to run up spending, he's downright thrifty compared to Obama.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

And likewise, you see no Dem plans to address runaway spending. Its a tug of war of priorities. On the right, its viewed as "stop spending money we don't have." While you can certainly lambaste Bush for continuing to run up spending, he's downright thrifty compared to Obama.

Uh, no. Government spending is precisely what allowed us to come out of the Great Recession in much better shape than would have been the case under austerity policies. In fact, we should have had greater government spending in response to the Great Recession, something that proved impossible when confronted with the GOP's adherence to discredited supply-side nonsense.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by whell

Nice to see you too, though it looks like you were pissed off about something, as usual.

nah, just hung over

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Uh, no. Government spending is precisely what allowed us to come out of the Great Recession in much better shape than would have been the case under austerity policies. In fact, we should have had greater government spending in response to the Great Recession, something that proved impossible when confronted with the GOP's adherence to discredited supply-side nonsense.

Obie never had the balls to ask Congress for the second part of the stimulus plan. Had he, things would be even better