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Old 02-11-2015, 12:48 PM
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You just don't get it do you? It's not what you say, it's how you say it. I'll tell you what don...if I were one of your adult children, you had a complaint, and you chose to address it in the same way you speak to people here when criticizing WHAT THEY SAY, you wouldn't see my ass again for the dust.
I get that I rub you the wrong way. I have a few ideas as to why, but I really don't intend to pursue this subject.

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Old 02-11-2015, 12:55 PM
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Cherry picked my argument a bit there, didn't you? BTW, just saying my comparison is stupid doesn't make it so.
Well it is common knowledge that Jordan and others in the coalition are doing their part , well except for Turkey which is all hat and no cattle.

I did not have to make it so, you did that all by yourself laddie.
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Old 02-11-2015, 12:59 PM
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You must further qualify that statement. It wasn't Sunna as a whole but Wahabism/Salaphism. This sect of Snuni Islam is responsible for financing all of the iterations of al Qaeda, of Boko Haram and of Daesh.

All the "big players" in Wahhabism are Saudi sheiks, members of or closely allied to the House of Saud. This begs the question of why we continue to support Saudi Arabia while combating the terrorists they finance.

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Old 02-11-2015, 01:01 PM
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Well it is common knowledge that Jordan and others in the coalition are doing their part , well except for Turkey which is all hat and no cattle.

I did not have to make it so, you did that all by yourself laddie.
But you do have to offer more than quips, if you want people to have any reason to join you in your opinion, old bean.
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Old 02-11-2015, 01:04 PM
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But you do have to offer more than quips, if you want people to have any reason to join you in your opinion, old bean.
I think we're supposed to acquiesce to Rob's opinion because he's smarter than the rest of us. We know this because he's told us so.

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Old 02-11-2015, 01:17 PM
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Given the copious venom that oozes from nearly anything you post on any topic, I find it absurd that you feel justified in complaining about the language anyone else uses here.
Typically my venom is not directed at anybody in particular...albeit save whelly who I resort to calling an idiot from time to time. So shoot me.

Look at my posts to this thread. When discussing this topic, my venom was squarely pitched at ISIS, Al Qaeda, Hamas and other pacifistic organizations who only want peace and fair play. As opposed to you and don who decided to get after it with rob because he's as pissed off and sick of the rampant extremism in Islam as a few others of us on this forum. So rob is "stupid" according to you and rob is hateful and I must say...a virtual racist...according to donnie, who left his balls in his other pants and will only imply what he actually means so he can play victim when somebody decides to call him on it. This didn't get personal with me until I also got sick of listening to this shit. You two just don't do very well with any progressive who won't lay down and die behind your total world view. Well John...tough shit.

Comparing Israel's self-defense to actual Islamic fundamentalist atrocities is utterly absurd. The day the last rocket goes into an Israeli neighborhood is the day airstrikes end, and you know it. What you don't like is the suggestion that at some point, the war comes to the makers of war. And the makers of war on this planet these days are radical Islamists and their goddamn caliphates. When they start lopping heads off and raping women and young girls they've relinquished their status as human beings, and it's time to turn wherever they're hiding out into Dresden in the desert.
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Old 02-11-2015, 01:34 PM
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Old 02-11-2015, 02:19 PM
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Typically my venom is not directed at anybody in particular...albeit save whelly who I resort to calling an idiot from time to time.
And finn and DQ and Zeke and, well, me and anyone else who takes a position in direct opposition to your own.

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The point isn't that you do it or that you don't have a right to do it. The point is that you really don't have an excuse to whine about it when others return the favor. It's babyish and hypocritical.

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So rob is "stupid" according to you and rob is hateful
It's one thing to call someone stupid and another to characterize something they've said or that they believe as stupid. You, I and even Rob have all said stupid things many more times than once but none of us is stupid. Also, if you're dealing with someone who is truly stupid, telling them that they are is pointless but, if you tell an intelligent person that a belief they hold is stupid, their intelligence may lead them to a re-examination of that belief.

And I didn't accuse Rob of being hateful. I know the post you're referring to and my use of the word was used in connection with the hypothetical soldier in his post. In fact, I maintained that a feeling of hatred was unnecessary for the soldier to behave in the way that Rob described.

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...according to donnie, who left his balls in his other pants and will only imply what he actually means so he can play victim........
And, of course, that's not at all a venomous thing to say of someone.

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Comparing Israel's self-defense to actual Islamic fundamentalist atrocities is utterly absurd.
Which, of course, nobody here has done. Observing that Israel has committed atrocities, an incontrovertible fact, doesn't automatically entail comparison to other atrocities, even those committed by the victims of Israeli reprisals.

Atrocities are atrocities and those who commit them, be it Daesh or Hamas or the IDF, run the risk of de-legitimizing the cause in whose service they were committed. Simple stuff, really, and I can't help but believe that you know it.

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The day the last rocket goes into an Israeli neighborhood is the day airstrikes end, and you know it.
Sadly, history has taught me that to hope for that would be in vain.

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What you don't like is the suggestion that at some point, the war comes to the makers of war.
Actually, what I don't like is people telling me what I don't like.
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Old 02-11-2015, 02:36 PM
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But you do have to offer more than quips, if you want people to have any reason to join you in your opinion, old bean.

Why on earth would I want y'all to do that?
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Old 02-11-2015, 02:39 PM
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I think we're supposed to acquiesce to Rob's opinion because he's smarter than the rest of us. We know this because he's told us so.

John
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Oh and Bell confirmed it which was why they put me into computer programming from the plant department. Since that involved a promotion I guess they were serious.
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