Darren Wilson's Side of the Story

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Darren Wilson has 100% respect and backing from his fellow officers! Darren Wilson faces no criminal charges, and thus has been PROVEN INNOCENT! Darren Wilson has been gifted with money and economic opportunity! Officers everywhere display tokens that proclaim "I am Darren Wilson!

Darren Wilson is GOLDEN! Why would anyone not want to be Darren Wilson?

Because this whole thing starts with him just trying to do his job and being forced to kill a violent strongarm robber to protect his own life.

Yuck. Given any choice, nobody wants that...

I'm sure he would have much preferred that Brown have not been a drugged up, assaultive, robber thug who responded to proper authority through violence due to personal entitlement.

That would have been much easier.

[Ike Bana]

I suppose running away is not an alternative to "forced to kill"...whatever TF that means. My model is that adults always have choices. Killing oughta be at the bottom of the choice list...don'tcha think?

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

My model is that adults always have choices. Killing oughta be at the bottom of the choice list...don'tcha think?

1. It was.
2. Brown earned it.
3. Codified by unilateral investigation(s).

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I suppose running away is not an alternative to "forced to kill"...whatever TF that means. My model is that adults always have choices. Killing oughta be at the bottom of the choice list...don'tcha think?

The following sounds reasonable to me.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-pol...use-new-tactic

In the wake of the grand jury decision not to indict the police officers who killed Eric Garner in an illegal chokehold MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell interviewed police analysts Eugene O’Donnell and Jim Cavanaugh on his show “The Last Word.” Cavanaugh made an interesting point observing that in the past police engaged in high-speed chases no matter what the crime but came to understand that the trade-off in life lost in accidents for anything less that the pursuit of violent felons was not worth it. He said:

"We need to take that attitude to the street. If you would just imagine if Officer Wilson in Ferguson had just taken a step back after the confrontation with the vehicle and after Michael Brown ran away. Just after he called for backup that was 90 seconds away. Where was Michael Brown going to go? He’s going to the hospital, he’s been shot. He’s not going to Kathmandu, on an airplane. You’re going to catch him. Just take a step back. In Mr. Garner’s case, as well. When he puts his hands like this it’s like, “ok ok,” when they get on his back, take a step back. In the Cleveland case with the child, if you drive your car in like that, if you have an escaped felon with a gun you’re dead, he’s going to shoot you as soon as you drive up. What kind of tactic is that? So take a step back and be smart and we can police better than we’re doing."

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[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

The following sounds reasonable to me.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-pol...use-new-tactic



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You read something like this and one thing it really points out is what a steaming pile of lame excuse making we hear every day from Zeke.

[Zeke]

The idea that you can "take a step back" once in the pickle barrel via someone else's actions is not merely naive but radically stupid.

Where is Brown going to go? He's a suspected strongarm robber who just assaulted an officer: you don't give him the opportunity to make that a relevant question as you're in a residential area and he's just proven himself violent.

All the career criminal Garner had to do was submit to proper authoritative control.

In the Cleveland case, are you actually supporting an argument trying to extrapolate the potential behavior of a perceived armed felon? That's a losing argument if you're trying to use it as evidence for restraint.

In each case above, the officer's were smart. The only folks injured incurred harm merely due to their own stupidity.

[merrylander]

Give us a break Zeke, those officers had a violent streak in them and you are not about to convince anyone here otherwise.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Give us a break Zeke, those officers had a violent streak in them and you are not about to convince anyone here otherwise.

Locate any ongoing evidence of such?

The only discernible patterns appear to be criminal or idiotic behavior on the part of the deceased.

[sheltiedave]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Locate any ongoing evidence of such?

The only discernible patterns appear to be criminal or idiotic behavior on the part of the deceased.

Ipso facto, the dead body, for the most casual of astute observers.

Before the incidents, a prior history of poor or criminal behaviour on the part of the officers. In Cleveland, the officer's previous employer indicating he was a poor candidate for police work. In Ferguson, the fact that Wilson's high school hockey gear and clothing was all purchased from stolen funds, and that he was not picked up by St. Louis County PD when they assumed the Jennings obligations. In NY, the officer's previous documented disciplinary findings. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...ct-before.html

Easy peasey.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Locate any ongoing evidence of such?

Chicago Police Officer Attacks Female Bartender: http://youtu.be/49kgG0s7lVk

Anybody notice any criminal behavior on the part of Kathryn Obryka? Well OK...anybody besides Zeke?