Darren Wilson's Side of the Story - Page 168

finnbow · #**1671** 01-22-2015, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

I don't know but I do know that Holder's DOJ is far more controversy-averse than I would like. As a couple of examples, there's there failure to bring charges against any of the thieves on Wall Street. Too big to fail = too big to jail. There's also the violation of the civil rights of Don Siegelman, a grotesque and ongoing case of political persecution.

John

Siegelman was convicted, along with Dick Scrushy of HealthSouth, on 7 criminal counts in 2006 which were upheld on appeal in 2009. Besides Holder having nothing to do with this, WTF does it have to do with Ferguson?

I too wish more Wall St. miscreants had been prosecuted, but fail to see any connection to Ferguson.

finnbow · #**1672** 01-22-2015, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BeamOn

Why do more American's believe that Wilson was guilty? Granted it's not an overwhelming majority but the numbers are still there and why this is not going away.

Americans Remain Deeply Divided Over Ferguson Shooting, Poll Finds

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...n_6218718.html

Great. We should now prosecute by public poll, using the same public of which 40% don't even know of the existence of Obamacare, 30% can't name the Vice-President and 21% believe that UFO's landed at Roswell.

Rajoo · #**1673** 01-22-2015, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow

Great. We should now prosecute by public poll, using the same public of which 40% don't even know of the existence of Obamacare, 30% can't name the Vice-President and 21% believe that UFO's landed at Roswell.

I did not claim that. We are a nation of laws and a constitution, period. What I am pointing out is the level of skepticism with the people whereas all you and Zeke can do is recite experts and a Grand Jury. So take this as a voice of dissent.

Boreas · #**1674** 01-22-2015, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow

Siegelman was convicted, along with Dick Scrushy of HealthSouth, on 7 criminal counts in 2006 which were upheld on appeal in 2009. Besides Holder having nothing to do with this, WTF does it have to do with Ferguson?

I too wish more Wall St. miscreants had been prosecuted, but fail to see any connection to Ferguson.

Holder has refused to intervene even though the entire case against Siegelman is bullshit, a setup by Karl Rove.

Re: "more" Wall Street thieves being prosecuted? One would be more than the number already prosecuted.

I could have also mentioned the Holder DOJs failure to bring charges against any of the people involved in the NSA scandal or anyone from the Bush Administration for their treasonous, perjurious and otherwise criminal conduct in the wake of 9/11.

John

finnbow · #**1675** 01-22-2015, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BeamOn

I did not claim that. We are a nation of laws and a constitution, period. What I am pointing out is the level of skepticism with the people whereas all you and Zeke can do is recite experts and a Grand Jury. So take this as a voice of dissent.

So, we're a nation of laws and a grand jury and the DOJ have both investigated and concluded that no crime was committed? Irony alert.

finnbow · #**1676** 01-22-2015, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

Holder has refused to intervene even though the entire case against Siegelman is bullshit, a setup by Karl Rove.

Re: "more" Wall Street thieves being prosecuted? One would be more than the number already prosecuted.

I could have also mentioned the Holder DOJs failure to bring charges against any of the people involved in the NSA scandal or anyone from the Bush Administration for their treasonous, perjurious and otherwise criminal conduct in the wake of 9/11.

John

And exactly WTF does any of this have to do with Ferguson?

sheltiedave · #**1677** 01-22-2015, 02:30 PM

DOJ still has two investigations cooking; one is concerned with the operation of the Ferguson Police Department, and the second involves the debtors' prison and court system in the north county municipalities.

Until these two investigations are complete and findings published, I eouldnt trumpet too much about justice being served.

Boreas · #**1678** 01-22-2015, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow

And exactly WTF does any of this have to do with Ferguson?

It has to do with Holder's obvious aversion for attracting controversy.

John

finnbow · #**1679** 01-22-2015, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

It has to do with Holder's obvious aversion for attracting controversy.

John

How on earth can you say that Holder is not controversial? He's driven most Republicans into full-tilt conniptions.

Moreover, you seem to be asserting that DOJ investigators did indeed find enough evidence to prosecute Wilson, but chose not to because of pressure from Holder. That's just plain silly.

Tom Joad · #**1680** 01-22-2015, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow

Do you really think Holder's DOJ didn't do their due diligence in investigating this case?

It's very possible that they would be reluctant to charge Wilson for fear of the political backlash.

A black President's black AG finding a white cop guilty of violating Brown's civil rights?

Can you imagine the backlash?

The right would be screaming "Reverse Racism" like a tree full of Chinese Monkeys.