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Old 01-17-2015, 08:55 PM
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Appreciate the excellent posts from both Whell and Boreas.
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Old 01-17-2015, 09:39 PM
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I have one phone, it's not a land line, and I consider it an essential utility. In addition, so much of what we do in our lives is now done by many via the internet. I'm paperless and in a way the internet has replaced the mail. I'm thinking this makes the internet an essential utility too.
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Old 01-17-2015, 09:54 PM
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I have one phone, it's not a land line, and I consider it an essential utility. In addition, so much of what we do in our lives is now done by many via the internet. I'm paperless and in a way the internet has replaced the mail. I'm thinking this makes the internet an essential utility too.
Which brings up the rather interesting possibility of having the USPS offer broadband service.

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Old 01-17-2015, 10:20 PM
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It might increase cost but it only slows things down if the ISPs don't upgrade their service to something approximating the world standard. Our internet speeds are a joke when compared to the rest of the developed, and not so developed, countries.

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One possible explanation for that, among others.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...-the-internet/
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Old 01-17-2015, 10:34 PM
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One possible explanation for that, among others.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...-the-internet/
Thanks. That article describes the problem as I see it and recommends the solutions I favor.

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Old 01-17-2015, 11:25 PM
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Thanks. That article describes the problem as I see it and recommends the solutions I favor.

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On the other hand...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/halsinge...anica-patrick/
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Old 01-18-2015, 09:11 AM
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According to the author, US broadband is great because, even though it's only half as fast (or a third as fast in customers with speeds above 10 Mbps) as the fastest, it's pretty?

Basically, that article admits that we're slow and expensive but insists that we're not that slow and expensive. Typical Forbes apologist for Big Business.

It also addresses net neutrality not at all.

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Old 01-18-2015, 11:05 AM
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Not only is Internet stupidly expensive and relatively slow here, cell phone service is also far more expensive here than it is in most of the developed world.
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Old 01-18-2015, 11:46 AM
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Not only is Internet stupidly expensive and relatively slow here, cell phone service is also far more expensive here than it is in most of the developed world.
The same goes for medical care and prescription drugs and probably a whole lot of other things too. We are being ripped off big time.
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Old 01-18-2015, 12:19 PM
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With each company owning and maintaining it's own separate grid adds to cost and uneven service. For example when we moved in our home, only AT&T service would work, not Verizon nor T-Mobile. Doubt if anything has changed. And this is the Bay Area, not some remote backwater!
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