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Old 01-14-2015, 11:52 AM
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Nope, my post was in response to Boreas' weak support for what Ike called him. Ike is capable of defending himself.
Much obliged. I thought so as well. I've had a long time to get used to the fact that when it comes to getting a reaction out of "progressives" nothing gets them frothing like a lefty who supports the State of Israel doing what it needs to in order to defend itself against (OK what the hell, I'll say it) it's Jew-hating terrorist neighbors.

Nothing a con can say or do will get them oscillating quite so violently.
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Old 01-14-2015, 11:55 AM
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You've conveniently left the second sentence of my second paragraph out of your quote.
Okay, so what makes DQ's question "stupid" unless you assumed him to be speaking of physical violence?

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You also seem unable to make up your mind about what it is Ike called you, you deflector you.
Ike's meaning is clear to any objective reader.

What's your brief here? Are you defending Ike or merely attacking me? In either case, you're doing a piss poor job.

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Old 01-14-2015, 12:03 PM
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Your lack of knowledge is showing: at least the prior school was accredited.

Point being? If you can find me a college grad, after six years, from those scholarships? I'll buy that kid a nice dinner, happily.

But I'm not holding my breath.
Zeke, Normandy is the Taj Mahal compared to wWellston. WWellston was forced to fold by the state. Normandy was taken over by the state. Huge difference.

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Old 01-14-2015, 12:12 PM
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Zeke, Normandy is the Taj Mahal compared to wWellston. WWellston was forced to fold by the state. Normandy was taken over by the state. Huge difference.
Not in there success rates, if actual graduation matters.

But here's the rub: I'll concede which school is/was crappier.

All it does is strengthen my point that passing out college scholarships to their graduates is feel good $$$, not do good $$$.
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Old 01-14-2015, 12:19 PM
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All it does is strengthen my point that passing out college scholarships to their graduates is feel good $$$, not do good $$$.
That wasn't your point. Your point was that these scholarship kids were more likely to get an arrest record than a diploma. That's a pretty fucking rotten thing to say about anyone.

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Old 01-14-2015, 12:21 PM
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That wasn't your point. Your point was that these scholarship kids were more likely to get an arrest record than a diploma. That's a pretty fucking rotten thing to say about anyone.

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And it's statistically accurate.

Hence, "all it does is strengthen my point that passing out college scholarships to their graduates is feel good $$$, not do good $$$."

If you don't like how the math works out, don't blame the math.
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Old 01-14-2015, 12:29 PM
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Zeke, there are zero statistics about how many of these scholarship students have failed to graduate once in this program. However, a similar scholarship program at lincohn University has a 100% graduation rate down in Jefferson city for the past 27 years.

But we will defer you your supreme and omniscient presence... All bow before Zeke.
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Old 01-14-2015, 12:31 PM
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Zeke, there are zero statistics about how many of these scholarship students have failed to graduate once in this program.
True.

There's just the national statistics on first time college students that are male, minority, on Minority Incentive scholarships, their acceptance at private institutions and the -- ahem -- "preparation" offered in Normandy schools.

Sum?

Things can be extrapolated with relative ease.

You've got six years to find me an actual graduate...
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Old 01-14-2015, 12:34 PM
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That wasn't your point. Your point was that these scholarship kids were more likely to get an arrest record than a diploma. That's a pretty fucking rotten thing to say about anyone.

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Like he gives a shit. His malevolence knows no bounds.
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Old 01-14-2015, 12:41 PM
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And it's statistically accurate.

Hence, "all it does is strengthen my point that passing out college scholarships to their graduates is feel good $$$, not do good $$$."

If you don't like how the math works out, don't blame the math.
Show me a statistic that claims that , among students who sought and obtained scholarships to 4-year colleges, more ended up with criminal records than degrees.

Or were you just talking about black kids? Okay, show me those stats.

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