Terrorists in France Create Outrage

[Rajoo]

Placard text from the 2012 protest against Google in London for YouTube hosting the movie, Innocence of Muslims.

"Prophet Muhammad is the founder of freedom of speech"



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...Google-HQ.html

[donquixote99]

Freedom of hate speech can be hard to swallow. Most cultures, including most European nations, draw that line more restrictively than we do, at least in some cases.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

Just remember, during the three great crusades of the Middle Ages, crusaders killed more Christians than Muslims.

Peace is hard to find when you hate and kill in the name of the Lord.

Modern time and Islam of all the main religions is the one most mired in ancient deprave customs. Plus right now it is the one trying to push its religious depravity into different parts of the world.

[Rajoo]

[QUOTE]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Placard text from the 2012 protest against Google in London for YouTube hosting the movie, Innocence of Muslims.

"Prophet Muhammad is the founder of freedom of speech"

I was pointing to the irony. Words on a placard from a group of Muslims protesting against the release of the movie, Innocence of Muslims on YouTube. This group wanted Google/YouTube to ban this movie while proclaiming their prophet founded "freedom of speech".

Not trying to define freedom of speech here or elsewhere.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Placard text from the 2012 protest against Google in London for YouTube hosting the movie, Innocence of Muslims.

"Prophet Muhammad is the founder of freedom of speech"



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...Google-HQ.html

They have captured London.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

Just remember, during the three great crusades of the Middle Ages, crusaders killed more Christians than Muslims.

And Jews.

Most of the Christians killed were Orthodox though. I guess that shouldn't really count, huh?

John

[Dondilion]

Moscow has a Muslim problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3sjnU_YFR8

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

It's how I feel John. I don't believe I owe anybody an explanation for how I feel. If you don't think it's rational, that would be your concern, not mine. I'm sick to my stomach over the half-century of passivity from the mainstream Muslim community over the barbarism that is running at such a high level through that culture.

I never suggested that anybody repudiate their religion. Although the fundamentals of Islam appear to allow for such behavior to be so frequent and the response by other Muslims pretty much nonexistent. That and the treatment of women in the culture as exposed by so many brave and vocal Muslim women who risk their lives expressing their feelings about the failure of Islam to protect them from the Islamic patriarchy.

As far as the riots you witnessed...I'm not sure what you mean by "...on both sides." What sides would those be? Perhaps the rioters and their neighbors who were burned out of their homes and businesses? Those both sides?

It's not only how you feel but what you assume about an individual (Hend) based on your rather jaundiced view if her coreligionists.

I suspect that one of the things that sticks in your craw regarding Hend's post is her stated refusal to apologize for the attack. I hear this supposed criticism leveled at Muslims all the time. It's profoundly unjust. Should Christians offer individual apologies when an abortion clinic is bombed or a synagog attacked and defiled? Should Jews apologize when IDF soldiers stomp an innocent 14 year old American boy or level run over and murder a 24 year old American woman or level an apartment block full of non-combatant families in Gaza?

As for the treatment of women by some Muslims, this is far from unique to Islam. Ultra-orthodox Charedim are essentially just as bad.

Now, as to the riots, I realize your question was merely provocative but I'll answer it briefly. I saw rioting, looting and vandalism on the part of African Americans but I also saw some rather brutal behavior on the part of a few guardsmen. At the same time, I saw acts of charity and brotherhood on both sides.

John

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

They have captured London.

Paranoid crapola.

[Oerets]

Sad day for freedom of the press. Hope they run these murders to the ground quickly.


Islam needs to go trough a reformation much like the Christians did. It was bloody then and appears to be the same now with Islam. Trust me there is plenty of fundamentalist of take your pick of any religion who believe in violence.

Having a hard time finding the proof but long ago when talking to a follower of Islam he told me the they believe their savior will not return till the whole world is Islam. So the killing of a non believer is justified by some for this reason. I seem to recall him also saying he will be born of man not woman.




Barney