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Old 01-07-2015, 07:13 AM
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You two are so blind to only one viewpoint it is amazing you don't spend all day walking in circles.
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Old 01-07-2015, 07:49 AM
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Except, of course, there's nothing to "redress."
Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one. But when it comes to Zeke...'jever notice that Zeke typically backs up his opinions with more of his opinions? No data, no links, no examples, no nothing, but lots of opinion.

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Redress against the police?
Clearly Zeke believes nobody is ever "entitled" to redress against the police.

Not Rolando Cruz, not Marty Tankleff, John Restivo, Dennis Halstead, the "Dixmoor 5", or the "Central Park 5." Certainly not any of the 324 exonerees released by the Innocence Project.

PS - 205 of the Innocence Project exonerees are black men.
PSS - 25% of the exonerees were submitted to duress and/or torture by police and confessed to crimes they did not commit to get the abuse to stop.

There's plenty to redress. And it continues to happen daily. Whether Zeke says so...or not.

Nah...no redress required...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._United_States

Here's a particularly lovely one...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima. Redress? Against the police???

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Old 01-07-2015, 10:06 AM
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I hear crickets.
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Old 01-07-2015, 10:15 AM
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You need any extra straw for that man you're building?
If he does, I'm confident he knows you're the "go-to guy" for straw.

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Old 01-07-2015, 10:30 AM
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From an ethical, moral, religious, community, and citizen viewpoint, one would want a police force and legal system that is fair, equitable, transparent, and above board. But when we ask for it, we find out that we are straw em.
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Old 01-07-2015, 11:26 AM
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one would want a police force and legal system that is fair, equitable, transparent, and above board.
Don't forget clean and reverent.
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Old 01-07-2015, 11:45 AM
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Trustworthy too.

But Zeke just wants thrifty to be covered, by canceling grand juries.
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Old 01-07-2015, 12:25 PM
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You need any extra straw for that man you're building?
Are you sure that you can spare it?
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Old 03-06-2015, 10:19 PM
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Ferguson, Mo., police Officer Darren Wilson had reason to fear unarmed teen Michael Brown when he fatally shot him last August — it’s now the conclusion of both state and federal authorities.

But just two days after the Justice Department released findings of its probe, a grand juror from the St. Louis County investigation continues to advance a legal battle with prosecutor Robert McCulloch, perhaps calling into question Wilson’s innocence.

On Friday the unidentified juror filed a 21-page memorandum arguing why U.S. District Judge Rodney Sippel shouldn’t dismiss their lawsuit against McCulloch.

The juror — one of 12 to sit on the secret panel — alleges McCulloch publicly misrepresented that “all grand jurors believed that there was no support for any charges,” according to the federal lawsuit. The juror contends McCulloch’s team gave jurors instructions in a “muddled and untimely” manner and presented the evidence in a way that insinuated that the dead teen, not the officer, was the wrongdoer.
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Old 03-07-2015, 08:03 AM
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I sued a beef and cheese stick last week, there was more cheese than beef, and I can prove it.
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