Grand juror in Missouri police shooting case sues prosecutor

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Zeke

1. Correct (as I implied, above).
2. There's only the desire to speak.

I'm sure that's tied to $$$, not perceived injustice. Had there been a belief of injustice, there'd be an indictment.

Absolutely! McCulloch would indict himself in a heartbeat!

And I see you have no clue as to the difference between injustice and illegality.

John

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Absolutely! McCulloch would indict himself in a heartbeat!

And I see you have no clue as to the difference between injustice and illegality.

John

And I see you have no clue as to the appropriate result of placing an officer's life in immediate peril.

Now, a juror wants a book deal.

There never should have been a Grand Jury.

[sheltiedave]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Sure.

1. This lawsuit never -- once -- implies the Grand Jury results were inaccurate.
2. The lawsuit makes NO call for additional investigation or another Grand Jury.
3. At best, the lawsuit implies that a single member desires to speak, publicly.

Any bets that there is a potential cheque involved?

If I am the DA, this isn't worth responding to. I'd let it go through the courts, bleed the juror out of $$$ and, if they get to talk at the end? Like Benghazi, things will merely show there was no issue to begin with.

The lawsuit is a joke.

While the lawsuit may be some inside joke to you, the prosecutorial misconduct case we filed at The Ethics Project with the Missouri Office of Chief Disciplinary Counsel, Counsel Pratzel presiding, goes to the heart of your protestation. This is the case that has the attention of McCulloch, alizedah, and Whirley. depending on Counsel Pratzel's findings, such as findings of fact, misconduct, or incompetence, the case could be returned to the DA office or a trial judge for rehearing.

This is another shoe dropping.

[Zeke]

Into an already completed ether...

[Rajoo]

Question for Zeke: What mode are you in?
Close my eyes and pretend it's gone away, or, close my eyes and hope it goes away?
Answer: It's not going away.

[sheltiedave]

Zeke doesn't seem to understand people will seek redress through the courts and all legal avenues available.

If that doesn't work, then they will directly seek redress against the police.

When he says this is all bullshit and doesn't matter at all, well, that is what blacks in St. Louis think cops think. Zeke only reinforces and validates that black lives don't matter with his every statement.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

Zeke doesn't seem to understand people will seek redress through the courts and all legal avenues available.

If that doesn't work, then they will directly seek redress against the police.

When he says this is all bullshit and doesn't matter at all, well, that is what blacks in St. Louis think cops think. Zeke only reinforces and validates that black lives don't matter with his every statement.

Except, of course, there's nothing to "redress." Brown got what he deserved, it was looked at -- fairly -- by an unnecessary Grand Jury and Wilson (who was victimized) had his career unfairly harmed so he took a cheque.

Redress against the police? This is, of course, the sort of backward and entitlement thinking that initiated this entire recent mess. It's, also, going to (appropriately) get a lot of people shot who wouldn't have to be, legally and righteously, due to their own idiocy.

And no, this doesn't matter at all. At the end of the day, the problem is with the criminal(s), not the officer. The only way in which this WILL matter is if the next time a robber assaults an officer and gets killed, we grow up as a society and don't hold a Grand Jury which isn't necessary.

[sheltiedave]

No Zeke, YOU don't understand, we stop killing people. Period. We are not a third world country.

At least half the cop killings we go through are due to improper training. We don't need people to be dropped at every opportunity. We don't need trigger happy cops, and cops seeking to lawyer up and justify killings.

Believe it or not, there are a handful of Ferguson cops who can walk from one end of Canfield to the other, and walk through all of the apartment complex floors, without being hassled. People know they will get a fair shake from them, and they will not be hassled, body slammed, or killed by them at the first opportunity. That respect engenders a level of respectfor them, as well.

You say community policing has failed. Does this mean we need cops patrolling in armoured Humvees, decked out in assault gear, or can we get to a more peaceable median where people get treated humanely and with respect.

[whell]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

Zeke doesn't seem to understand people will seek redress through the courts and all legal avenues available.

If that doesn't work, then they will directly seek redress against the police.

When he says this is all bullshit and doesn't matter at all, well, that is what blacks in St. Louis think cops think. Zeke only reinforces and validates that black lives don't matter with his every statement.

You need any extra straw for that man you're building?

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

No Zeke, YOU don't understand, we stop killing people. Period. We are not a third world country.

At least half the cop killings we go through are due to improper training. We don't need people to be dropped at every opportunity. We don't need trigger happy cops, and cops seeking to lawyer up and justify killings.

Believe it or not, there are a handful of Ferguson cops who can walk from one end of Canfield to the other, and walk through all of the apartment complex floors, without being hassled. People know they will get a fair shake from them, and they will not be hassled, body slammed, or killed by them at the first opportunity. That respect engenders a level of respectfor them, as well.

You say community policing has failed. Does this mean we need cops patrolling in armoured Humvees, decked out in assault gear, or can we get to a more peaceable median where people get treated humanely and with respect.

1. We have ghettos.
2. Link?
3. That's due to law abiding residents, not cops.
4. Ask the criminals.

Until then, criminal activity reaps what it sows.

Police aren't the problem.