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Old 01-05-2015, 02:02 PM
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What Zeke meant to say was the Rams moving to LA would be a dead issue my March. It already is dead, they are moving, and we could care less.

On the other hand, Zeke on a couch in Kansas City has proven to be an incoherent provider of any valid analysis outside of police matters in St. Louis. The other shoe is beginning to fall, and he doesn't even understand any part of it. He is blindsided.
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Old 01-05-2015, 03:01 PM
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On the other hand, Zeke in his mom's basement in Kansas City has proven to be an incoherent provider of any valid analysis outside of police matters in St. Louis. The other shoe is beginning to fall, and he doesn't even understand any part of it. He is blindsided.
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Old 01-05-2015, 03:05 PM
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The Rams are moving back to LA? Oh, joy...
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Old 01-05-2015, 03:32 PM
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Back on December 1st, someone on this forum, I forget who, said this would be a completely dead issue in 90 days or less.
It's already dead.

At this point, just the Benghazi conspiracy types are doing head spins...
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Old 01-05-2015, 03:51 PM
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Zeke, front page top of fold articles mean it isn't over. You need to engage something beyond your masters prepared police hindbrain to understand, though. The only newspaper in a metro area of over 2 million people.

Front page articles, editorials, Washington Post op-Ed means months longer. Wake up and smell the.coffee outside your couch in KC.
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Old 01-05-2015, 04:08 PM
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Mere chum.

Nothing of social substance or note.

Strained final gasps...
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Old 01-05-2015, 04:30 PM
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Lawsuits, legislation, police departments dissolving, municipalities folding, schools closing, school districts being taken over by the state, state Supreme Court rulings, riots. No wonder why folks have to riot to get attention...just kill people and move along. If you stand still, you will be arrested.

BTW, the reason you were not a good person while in law enforcement is still showing. Always right, always goading, and hoping you get to kill. It still doesn't work well, either.

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Old 01-05-2015, 07:04 PM
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Meh.

Try blaming the correct constituency (it's not the police).

This stuff is going nowhere -- rightfully so -- and will only generate additional spurious indignation with entitlement from a segment of the population whose issues are internal, not external.

Dead issue, Baby. Now rats are just picking over the carcass.
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Old 01-05-2015, 07:29 PM
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Bullshit, Zeke.

Police in St. Louis feel a great deal of freedom in instituting beatdowns, and then stepping behind their little cloak of "i was fearing for my life" mantra to justify illegal and unsanctioned conduct.

Once upon a time citizens were the prime movers of society, with judges, the legislature, the legal field, and police to provide backup and law protection.

Now society is strangely configured where police are at the head, followed by the legal field, then judges, the legislature, and finally citizens.

We are starting the corrective process now to reverse this order to its proper place, whether you like it or not.

I have heard, read, and been told of more people being killed by anxious police stateside, than all five of us brothers who all served in the military in adverse foreign countries and combat killing questionable adversaries. Cops are doing a very, very poor job of discriminating adversarial situations, especially regarding their unwillingness to invest time to better control confrontations.

You want to affix blame rather than addressing root causes. You want immediate compliance, when we are supposed to be a nation based on rights. If you are uncomfortable with pushback, then prepare for blowback. The answer for better policing does not come from more powerful weapons, more rounds in the chamber, better safety vests, and more cops.

We ALL are entitled to better than we are getting. We have had forty years of more prisons, more laws, more courts, and more lawyers, and all we have achieved is putting more felons in prison, to the point where we have the second largest per capita prison population in the world. And yet we are much less safe now than back when Mayberry RFD was in its first rerun cycle.

We don't need to spend more money on cops, prisons, guns, and throw away the book laws. That has failed, categorically and across the board. Surely your masters program included a class on ethics and another on demographic criminality. These should had taught you to think and analyze re strategies, results, and outcome based behaviours. If they didn't, and your picking over the carcass indicates such, then the program failed you, and you failed us.
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Old 01-05-2015, 09:13 PM
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Crime is the chosen profession of those who commit it.

Attempts to empathize or rationalize only empower it.

Your frustration is cased in the certainty that this "movement" is stillborn and community policing has long since failed.

That's nobody's fault but those who endeavor to validate criminality through a myriad of false arguments.
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