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12-28-2014, 12:51 PM
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Ain't hindsight beautiful?
BTW, you didn't respond to whether or not you personally investigate the details of every drug arrest in your community. I'm left assuming you don't. By your logic, you are accordingly complicit in the misdeeds of bad cops in your own community and any racism that may influenced or facilitated their misdeeds.
Catching corrupt cops ain't necessarily an easy thing. They know about the law, rules of evidence, court procedure, etc. Police corruption is a decidedly bad thing. It doesn't follow that it is an inherently racist thing.
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Again, you focus on the obviously mitigated complicity of persons like myself, outside the criminal justice system, ignoring my actual points. I guess you've gotten all your going to 'get,' today.
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12-28-2014, 12:52 PM
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And I will continue to sneer upon things such as "a coworker told me Wilson was in the KKK," "there are whispers that Wilson is a pot-smoker," "Wilson's ex-wife hates him," and "Wilson's mother was a skank."
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12-28-2014, 12:56 PM
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What's your solution?
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Redo Wilson grand jury, with special prosecutior.
Routine use of special prosecutors in cases of possible police wrongdoing.
that's just for starters.
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12-28-2014, 12:57 PM
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Why are you so very determined to make me wrong?
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Because it's easy.  The case of one rotten cop in Texas proves nothing outside of the particulars proven in the case.
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12-28-2014, 12:58 PM
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An interesting case in Charm City. A police officer blew thw whistle on a couple of crooked cops. First the PD went after him on some ruse that his wife had a ride in his squad car (they let you take them home if you live in the city).
The PD agreed to drop this if he agreed to back off. Then he found a rat on the windshield of his car.
He finally quit and took a job with another police departmen(IN PA I believe) and is sueing Baltimore and the PD. The Police Union went after him as well.
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12-28-2014, 01:12 PM
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What's your solution?
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A civil case against Wilson by the Brown family. That's the only recourse left I am afraid. This after disbanding the Ferguson PD for reasons of corruption (for profit LE being one).
And for the sake of entertainment, a smart lawyer should question McCullah regarding the Grand Jury process he employed so that people like you will quit quoting this Grand Jury verdict forever.
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12-28-2014, 01:40 PM
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Redo Wilson grand jury, with special prosecutior.
Routine use of special prosecutors in cases of possible police wrongdoing.
that's just for starters.
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On its face, those sound like reasonable, desirable solutions. There are, however, a couple of problems with it. First "possible police wrongdoing" is very much in the eye of the beholder (in many communities, most police actions within those communities are inherently wrong) and it's the prosecutor's duty to make such judgments (who else can/should do it?). It's easy to say it should be done routinely, but the (substantial) cost of a special prosecutor comes from the prosecutor's (limited) budget.
The local DA is elected by the community to do the job within an allotted budget. One high-profile case will suck the budget dry to the detriment of all other legal actions (e.g., the (correct) recusal of the Virginia AG in the Gov. McDonnell case cost VA taxpayers ~$1 million.) Like it or not, a prosecutor has to balance the real need of a special prosecutor against its substantial cost.
It's easy to devise solutions to real world problems as long as one isn't compelled to impose real world constraints.
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12-28-2014, 01:41 PM
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A civil case against Wilson by the Brown family. That's the only recourse left I am afraid. This after disbanding the Ferguson PD for reasons of corruption (for profit LE being one).
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There's little doubt about a forthcoming civil case. As for "for profit law enforcement," for the most part, lawmakers devise such schemes, not police departments. They can't get (re)elected by raising taxes, so they devise other ways (e.g., traffic cameras).
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And for the sake of entertainment, a smart lawyer should question McCullah regarding the Grand Jury process he employed so that people like you will quit quoting this Grand Jury verdict forever.
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Many have. Here's a snapshot:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_...-case_analysis
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12-28-2014, 01:58 PM
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It's easy to say it should be done routinely, but the (substantial) cost of a special prosecutor comes from the prosecutor's (limited) budget.
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Why? Such a procedure would require new legislation and, as such, the funding for such investigations could come from any bin in the government's cash drawer. Also, the proceedings would be in lieu of the "traditional" grand jury investigation, not in tandem with it. The money spent by the Special Prosecutor would be spent instead of the money the DA would have spent.
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One high-profile case will suck the budget dry to the detriment of all other legal actions (e.g., the (correct) recusal of the Virginia AG in the Gov. McDonnell case cost VA taxpayers ~$1 million.)
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And how much would have the DA spent had he been given the case?
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