"Two N.Y.P.D. Officers Are Killed in Brooklyn Ambush; Suspect Commits Suicide" NYT

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by bobabode

This guy was deeply troubled and sick individual.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/p...d8d1e&hpid=z11

doesn't matter

if you don't drop to your knees in adulation of the boys in blue they hate you

something very unhealthy with that mindset

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Or mentally ill murderous headcases set-off by some careless language they hear. Is it the language spewer's responsibility? No. It's a free country with a 1st Amendment. Any American can bleat whatever braindead, inflammatory bile they like, as long and loud as they like with absolutely no legal responsibility (outside of shouting "fire" in a crowded room, etc.). When the mentally ill guys go on their rampages, do the language spewers contribute? Absolutely.

That's how mental illness works whether you, or anybody else likes it or not.

Am I to understand that you are indeed saying that Al Sharpton, MSNBC and anybody else who perpetuated the "hands up, don't shoot" meme (including those on this board) contributed to these murders?

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Am I to understand that you are indeed saying that Al Sharpton, MSNBC and anybody else who perpetuated the "hands up, don't shoot" meme (including those on this board) contributed to these murders?

You are to understand anything goddam thing you like. There's no reason for me to restate this to fit your fucking agenda. Inflammatory language is intended to inflame, and some members of the culture are more susceptible to it than others. And some of those members are more likely to act impulsively on it...some have better impulse control than others. Some of those with poor impulse control are also the psychotic, who do not have the capacity to discern right from wrong.

Don't try to make it more complicated than it is, finn. If you think I'm wrong and you're an expert on mental illness, as you are on every other fucking thing, just say so...it hasn't ever been that difficult for you in the past.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Not surprisingly, you've ducked the point. Again. What left wing media goaded Corkins into action?

John

You want me to establish causation when you have failed to do so. You think you have a "point" when there's no fact behind it. Go fish until you can prove causation that supports your own narrative.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Generally speaking, they've always treated people like you and me as human beings, yes, but it's another story altogether in poor communities and communities of color. You know this, whell, but it doesn't fit the narrative.

John

Oh, hell. Did you even bother to click on the link? The story was about Detroit Police Officers - within a department that is often accused of being "too white" - helping out a little girl from a "community of color". You just keep on pushing that narrative, John.

Here's another link you'll probably ignore: http://detroitpal.org/about/

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by whell

Oh, hell. Did you even bother to click on the link? The story was about Detroit Police Officers - within a department that is often accused of being "too white" - helping out a little girl from a "community of color". You just keep on pushing that narrative, John.

Here's another link you'll probably ignore: http://detroitpal.org/about/

It's a citizen based "Police Action League". Most every town has one. My little town in NW Indiana has 650 residents and a PAL. PAL's have no authority over how police departments manage themselves or how individual cops behave.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

You are to understand anything goddam thing you like. There's no reason for me to restate this to fit your fucking agenda. Inflammatory language is intended to inflame, and some members of the culture are more susceptible to it than others. And some of those members are more likely to act impulsively on it...some have better impulse control than others. Some of those with poor impulse control are also the psychotic, who do not have the capacity to discern right from wrong.

Don't try to make it more complicated than it is, finn. If you think I'm wrong and you're an expert on mental illness, as you are on every other fucking thing, just say so...it hasn't ever been that difficult for you in the past.

Feeling guilty for having supported the "hands up, don't shoot" meme, Ike?

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Feeling guilty for having supported the "hands up, don't shoot" meme, Ike?

Tired of being a pompous asshole, finn?

[whell]

Originally Posted by bobabode

sigh - For chrissake Mike, John has never said all cops are bad.

You're right, not all. Just most of them, I guess.

Originally Posted by Boreas

Fucking criminals with badges and guns.... and we pay them!

John

Originally Posted by Boreas

I once heard it said that the typical police academy class is pretty much equally divided between people who are highly motivated toward serving the community, people just looking for a job and people who are basically sociopaths and psychopaths.John

Then there's this one, but I can't find my decoder ring at the moment.

Originally Posted by Boreas

The danger to police hasn't changed appreciable but the danger to the rest if us has because now the police will be even moe likely to use deadly force as a first option.

John

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Tired of being a pompous asshole, finn?

I'll take that as a "yes."