How a SWAT team upended my baby’s life — and got away with it

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

I'm glad I went through my teenage years back in the 70s, when a cop walking up to you would rather say hi than unbolster his gun before speaking.

The same is true today.

It's just hopelessly naive to do so in a society where you are attacked for enforcing compliance with law...

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

Don, just say no mas. Perpetrators, suspects, persons of interest, drugged assailants are all part of the modern vernacular. Civilians and babies are not. Collateral damage is as close as the modern police force can come to saying innocents.

I'm glad I went through my teenage years back in the 70s, when a cop walking up to you would rather say hi than unbolster his gun before speaking.

Wishful thinking (though I often wave to cops from my driveway when they are on patrol and they do wave back).

US Police Have Killed Over 5,000 Civilians Since 9/11

http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle36807.htm

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Wishful thinking (though I often wave to cops from my driveway when they are on patrol and they do wave back).

US Police Have Killed Over 5,000 Civilians Since 9/11

http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle36807.htm

An ugly stat, regardless of circumstance, even if it is over nearly fifteen years.

[Tom Joad]

This one isn't going away.

http://news.yahoo.com/family-toddler...opstories.html

[Zeke]

20/20 begging for $$$ means it's already gone away.

[donquixote99]

Zeke, the commies used to send people up as 'enemies of the people.' I'm not sure if they had guys like you in mind, exactly, but the label seems very apt....

[Zeke]

I'm not saying I agree, merely that this is basically a dead issue.

[sheltiedave]

Dropping a flash/bang grenade in a baby's chest is almost always a dead issue. I can't understand why anyone would think different. The baby failed to comply, obviously.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Zeke

I'm not saying I agree, merely that this is basically a dead issue.

Well, we can take it you wish this issue would go away. You're so into this 'tough cop' identity that you won't admit that in this case a militaristic, aggressive combat assault entry, with a grenade thrown into a dark room, was OBVIOUSLY CRIMINALLY RECKLESS. Showed depraved disregard for human life.

Such tactics could only, possibly, be justified in the case of a home from which you've already taken fire.

Isn't 'be sure of your target' one of the basic use-of-force principles? How does that square with a grenade into a dark room? And where was anything remotely like justification for deadly force in the first place, in this case?

And don't tell me the device thrown in was 'safe.' Obviously, it was not, if it explodes at a range of zero from a human being.

Of course, maybe these were subhumans. In that case, anything is OK, right?

[sheltiedave]

http://misguidedchildren.com/justice...-control/22191
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/t...cs-task-force/

This department is already on the books for paying a $2 million judgement for the wrongful death of an innocent pastor, and now they barely fail to kill an innocent baby.

It is interesting for you to say this is a dead issue, Zeke. Evidently you are blind, utterly without a moral compass, and have zero regard for human life. Unfortunately, I cannot find a photo of the poor baby's chest laid open, so this must do.