White Ignorance at the Core of Racial Tensions

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Like I said...we can always compare portfolios.

I wasn't talking about your money. I was talking about the state of the black community with people like you "helping".

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

Yeah, I can see you have done so well.

Have you developed a system to measure a person's success? Please be sure to share with us.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Have you developed a system to measure a person's success? Please be sure to share with us.

Zero's a "wealthy" man. Haven't ya heard?

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

I wasn't talking about your money. I was talking about the state of the black community with people like you "helping".

And...it's proof that you don't know WTF you're talking about. One person at a time Zero, one family at a time. Tell me about all the black families you've helped extract themselves out of decades mired in the public assistance system. It would be just like your handle...zero.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Zero's a "wealthy" man. Haven't ya heard?

I am sure Zero is afflicted with "I have made it, what's wrong with you syndrome". Probably could use a good dose of reality. From my experience, some of the truly successful people I know tend to be very humble and realize that they are also very fortunate to be in their position.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Trying to preach law and order is not going to work. It's pent up frustration.

1. Attacking an officer post robbery.
2. Wielding what appears to be an assault weapon in public.
3. Resisting yet another arrest in a thirty-five year criminal history.

Someone died.

You're selling these incidents as a right to be frustrated?

FUCK THAT.

What if someone resisted arrest by attacking an officer with an assault weapon after a thirty-five year criminal history? Are entitled troglodytes still going to sell that as "we've got a right?"

FUCK THAT.

Recently, these pages have been festering with the worst forms of self-important white guilt and inundated with the idea that minorities are consistently put upon, our failures not our own and that we're somehow justified in attacking a society born with generational design to keep us low.

FUCK THAT.

Because that is the worst form of pandering, embarrassing, perpetuates the dogma that minorities require help to compete and codifies it in motions, actions, forms and traits that are actually about the perceived oppressor and NOT the people supposedly helped by such activities.

FUCK THAT.

Nobody alive today ever owned a slave. Nobody alive today kept American Indians on reservations at gunpoint. Nobody alive today keeps ANYONE from being successful...

...except ourselves.

You want to help minorities become full-fledged members of society with access to the same presumed privileges, rights, responsibilities, involvement and status as other folks? Hold us to the same standards. That would be truly brave and leadership. But what do most folks say?

FUCK THAT.

Because then, they couldn't be bleeding hearts who nurture their white guilt like the most fragile dove to make THEMSELVES believe they are unique, special, deserving of something different or more worthy than folks who don't believe it's too much to demand minorities -- who desire to be treated as full-fledged citizens -- fucking act like they are.

Fucking idiots. Every time you allow specious behavior -- from anyone, not just minorities -- you're codifying a sense of entitlement to them that disavows responsibility, justifies their actions and otherwise dehumanizes them by saying they cannot perform to the standards of the species.

FUCK THAT.

Those who canonize the robber, gun wielder, career criminal and those who sanction unlawful behavior in their memory are as big a problem as the minorities who originally committed the unlawful and/or idiotic action(s).

Grow up.

[Rajoo]

Zeke, I am not selling anything nor condone lawless behavior.
But people are going to act out their frustrations and if you believe punishment is the answer you are dead wrong. We need to address the root cause of their frustrations.

But feel free to have a permanent case of the "FUCK IT's". You are entitled.

Edit: I suggest you read the link in Rob's post #53 if you have not done so. Or you can Fuck That too.
Tough to change reality.

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Have you developed a system to measure a person's success? Please be sure to share with us.

Finishing high school would be a good place to start.

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by Zeke

1. Attacking an officer post robbery.
2. Wielding what appears to be an assault weapon in public.
3. Resisting yet another arrest in a thirty-five year criminal history.

Someone died.

You're selling these incidents as a right to be frustrated?

FUCK THAT.

What if someone resisted arrest by attacking an officer with an assault weapon after a thirty-five year criminal history? Are entitled troglodytes still going to sell that as "we've got a right?"

FUCK THAT.

Recently, these pages have been festering with the worst forms of self-important white guilt and inundated with the idea that minorities are consistently put upon, our failures not our own and that we're somehow justified in attacking a society born with generational design to keep us low.

FUCK THAT.

Because that is the worst form of pandering, embarrassing, perpetuates the dogma that minorities require help to compete and codifies it in motions, actions, forms and traits that are actually about the perceived oppressor and NOT the people supposedly helped by such activities.

FUCK THAT.

Nobody alive today ever owned a slave. Nobody alive today kept American Indians on reservations at gunpoint. Nobody alive today keeps ANYONE from being successful...

...except ourselves.

You want to help minorities become full-fledged members of society with access to the same presumed privileges, rights, responsibilities, involvement and status as other folks? Hold us to the same standards. That would be truly brave and leadership. But what do most folks say?

FUCK THAT.

Because then, they couldn't be bleeding hearts who nurture their white guilt like the most fragile dove to make THEMSELVES believe they are unique, special, deserving of something different or more worthy than folks who don't believe it's too much to demand minorities -- who desire to be treated as full-fledged citizens -- fucking act like they are.

Fucking idiots. Every time you allow specious behavior -- from anyone, not just minorities -- you're codifying a sense of entitlement to them that disavows responsibility, justifies their actions and otherwise dehumanizes them by saying they cannot perform to the standards of the species.

FUCK THAT.

Those who canonize the robber, gun wielder, career criminal and those who sanction unlawful behavior in their memory are as big a problem as the minorities who originally committed the unlawful and/or idiotic action(s).

Grow up.

And if you're innocent of all wrong doing and a band of cops jumps you because they don't like the way you look and beat the crap outta you, you're just supposed to lie and take it, you may not defend yourself.

That's your amerikkka Zeke......

The star spangled banner with a big goddamn "LIE" painted on it.

Fascism every bit as large as the Nazi SS in every fucking city in the country.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Zeke, I am not selling anything nor condone lawless behavior.
But people are going to act out their frustration and if you believe punishment is the answer you are dead wrong. We need to address the root cause of their frustration.

The root cause of most individual minority frustration is the desire to be given success due to misdeeds that didn't personally happen to them. Entitlement. Codified by a validation of generational trauma through white guilt, nurtured in the fields of "it's not my fault."

BULLSHIT.

Originally Posted by BeamOn

But feel free to have a permanent case of the "FUCK IT's". You are entitled.

I'm entitled (1A US Constitution) to point out how stupid that is, yes.