Good Choke

[icenine]

The guy who killed the 12 year old in Cleveland had really bad fitness reports from the previous Police Department in which he had been employed. I heard on the radio the Cleveland PD did not check his previous employment record when they hired him.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Oh, I'm sure it is. It would have to be. Now, whether each and every location does it thoroughly........who knows?

Dave

It's not foolproof. Even stricter background checks exist for high level security clearances, yet we've had Aldridge Ames, Edward Snowden and many others. You do what you can.

I agree with mphollands comment. I have several close cop friends, all of whom have college degrees in criminal justice (mostly from UMaryland), and have had all sorts of background checks/training and work on a very well compensated and highly-regarded police force (Montgomery County, MD (whose police chief has been all over cable news lately as an expert on policing in diverse communities)).

All of them have or had assignments in rougher precincts (and these aren't that rough), yet all have developed an "attitude" towards the culture in rough neighborhoods from seeing an amazing amount of deviant/illegal behavior, most of which they are told to ignore for cultural/expediency reasons unless somebody's obviously going to get hurt. I guess this is the police model that the "experts" are now advocating.

For the most part, it leads to seemingly better race relations around here at the expense of a crime rate that could be better. The other end of the spectrum is "stop and frisk" in NYC with its attendant social problems, but with a reduced crime rate.

[icenine]

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nation...203-story.html

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

So, it is a huge 7.6 % . You should feel so much better.

Oh, I'd say he just proved to this entire board that you pull your so-called facts straight out of your ass.

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Oh, I'd say he just proved to this entire board that you pull your so-called facts straight out of your ass.

Made somebody go look it up didn't I .

[JJIII]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

His voice slowly fades to nothing. As I understand it, asthma causes ones throat to constrict, cutting off airflow within a few minutes. They don't die immediately, the air is slowly choked off until they either take a hit from the breather......or die.

See what I'm sayin'?

Dave

Your answer addresses the question. Thank you.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

Made somebody go look it up didn't I .

And it only cost you your credibility. Worth it?

[Oerets]

I'm going to jump in late into this discussion. Knowing the feedback ahead for me. I feel sadden at the events of late.

But I learned a long time ago arguing with Police you never will win. Just piss them off even more. Best to keep your moth shut and eyes down. Now is this right? In a perfect world were farts smell like roses maybe a good argument works. But the Police have to deal with very violent people all the time. See a side of society and man's inhumanity to their fellow man that I can only imagine. In their chosen career one never knows so must come down hard. We all want them to come home safe at night RIGHT!

Now sure some get into the field for reasons of power over others and should be weeded out. But as long as their pay and benefits are tied to a lowering tax bases the cream will go where the money is and leave those who can't to serve.

This guy would be alive if he had just allowed them to cuff him and taken the fine.

But I'm not fooling myself in the thought the protests are only about these events but have more to do with many bigger issues. This being just one of the recent triggers.

Barney

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by finnbow

...All of them have or had assignments in rougher precincts (and these aren't that rough), yet all have developed an "attitude" towards the culture in rough neighborhoods from seeing an amazing amount of deviant/illegal behavior, most of which they are told to ignore for cultural/expediency reasons unless somebody's obviously going to get hurt. I guess this is the police model that the "experts" are now advocating...

It is a different world where law is culturally perceived as the jack booted heavy, crime is normalcy and (local) society supports the criminal. In these areas:

1. Drug use is typically ignored.
2. Petty crime is typically ignored.
3. Gang activity normalizes.

At this point, it becomes about survival and containment for police.

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

And it only cost you your credibility. Worth it?

To you guys ?