Causes of Crime

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

Yeah, he is a smart guy. But ,he is going to have to work on the charisma.

Sort of opposite of Obama.

Plus reel in the stupid, red meat rhetoric:

"You know Obamacare is really I think the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery."

For a black man to say that shows that he may have been bitten by a rabid 'Bagger.

[djv8ga]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

I just don't buy that anyone goes into a life of crime.........simply because his mother fed him on food stamps. To my mind it's a ridiculous notion, regardless of who wrote however many pages about it.

And the obvious attempt of American rightists to tie criminal behavior to "entitlements" in such a broad sense is nothing more than mass manipulation with a purely political end in mind.

Dave

It seems to me that different people commit different crimes for different reasons. Trying to nail it down to one thing is stupid.

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Plus reel in the stupid, red meat rhetoric:

"You know Obamacare is really I think the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery."

For a black man to say that shows that he may have been bitten by a rabid 'Bagger.

Nah, more people actually believe that than don't. And, him being a neurosurgeon probably gives him a little more perspective.

And, the rabid beggers aren't going to vote for him anyway, so who cares.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

There is a portion of the population in this country that has never worked and is never going to work. I know a bunch of them personally. And, the only thing wrong with them is between their ears.

Now, they are going to get by. But, they are never going to have anything.

The thing about working and making money is that you spend it and it makes jobs for other people.

Glass empty/ full and it is always empty with you.

I am not talking about something that happens overnight , but the less people work the less demand there is for products and there is a circle.

If everybody in this country was educated and ambitious things would improve.

The more drop outs and government dependents you have the worse it will get.

so you demand the same thing from someone who grew up in poor housing, exposed to lead paint during their childhood and the subsequent brain damage?

You doubtless approve of the ten hour workdays that give parents little or no time to be involved with their childrens schools?

Yes sonny you really need to read Aristophanes "The Birds' because if anyone is living in Cloud Cuckoo Land it is you.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I hear you.

Another thing that changed from 1978 to 2004 was the closing cost scam. In 1978 my closing costs were $700 on a 25,000 loan. That's a little under 3%.

In 2004 they were almost $5,000 on an $80,000 loan.

That's about 6%.

Tell me that's not a scam.

The Vultures swoop down and get 6% on every real estate deal.

That's a shitload of money.

I'll bet Zero has got himself a piece of that action.

He strikes me as the type.

I will give you an example of honest versus here Tom.

When I closed on a $30,000 home in Ottawa in 1970 I wrote a check to the bank for $600, no effing mortgage broker, likewise no effing title company and only one piece of paper to sign.

When we closed on this property I damn near got writer's cramp signing papers at the Title company and wrote a check for $22,000 on a then $150,000 mortgage. That was a 4.5 acre lot then going for $45,000 but three years later they were selling 3 acre lots a mile up the road for $135,000.

[merrylander]

It would seem that Zero never heard the old adage that children should only be seen and not heard. My 9 and 7 year old granddaughters have more sense than he ever will.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

No matter what the subject it is always what somebody else is doing to you.

Another dumbass meme I am completely sick of.

If it were true that nobody ever has anyone to blame but themselves, then what's with all of these right wingers bitching about the president and government in general? All day long, whine, whine, whine about how hard it is to run a business because Obama this, Obama that..........

Looks to me like there is a LOT of the "victimhood mentality" to go around.
So, just STFU, because YOU DO IT TOO.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by djv8ga

It seems to me that different people commit different crimes for different reasons. Trying to nail it down to one thing is stupid.

You would think this is obvious. I guess these guys are just too smart to see it?

Dave

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Looks to me like there is a LOT of the "victimhood mentality" to go around.
So, just STFU, because YOU DO IT TOO.

Dave

I use to think it was only Democrats who whined and played the victim. Then Obama was elected. I've now concluded that whoever doesn't control the Presidency whines that their guy isn't in charge, thinking that everything would somehow be peachy-keen if their guys was in charge. Boo-frickety-hoo.

[BlueStreak]

I had a friend in high school who came from a nice family, his Dad an engineer and his mom a nurse. Decent, hardworking folk. At some point, I figured out that Joe had a bizarre trait; He enjoyed being in trouble. He'd do stupid things just to make his parents mad. So, I stopped hanging out with him. Good thing I did, too. 'Cuz a little while later, he discovered the joys of being chased by the cops.

Then one night he fatally shot two gas station employees after robbing them, because "...witnesses are a pain in the ass.".

Joe never took a penny in "entitlements", he was just a sick bastard.

Dave