Darren Wilson's Side of the Story

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Try having something another feels entitled to which they have the power to take.

You'll learn pretty quickly what causes aberrant behavior.

That makes no sense.

Would my experience not be the same, no matter what reason or attitude led someone to steal from me?

Now, you have to have gotten this 'entitlement theory' somewhere. Just tell me where. Are you dodging the question because you know the source is some rightwing BS factory?

[Rajoo]

Looks like these guys ain't buying it either. Of course the St. Luis cops are PO'd. I do know that some NFL players are not exactly role models but this is going to stir up the pot , ESPN will guarantee it.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Looks like these guys ain't buying it either. Of course the St. Luis cops are PO'd. I do know that some NFL players are not exactly role models but this is going to stir up the pot , ESPN will guarantee it.

Aren't buying what, the store vid? That didn't happen?
There was a chain of events leading to his demise that began somewhere, who was responsible for that? The clerk? Darren Wilson?
You get mugged in Ferguson, the poster child mugger gets support. Gotta wonder how long Mike Brown's been getting off with this crap before he turned 18, it'd probably be political suicide to unseal and publish his juvenile record.


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[Zeke]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Would my experience not be the same, no matter what reason or attitude led someone to steal from me?

You miss the point: the folks believing themselves entitled to your stuff don't give a damn about your experience (see Brown v. shopkeeper), their only typical feelings being aggression towards those who would -- appropriately -- question their perceived criminalistic rights (see Wilson v. Brown).

Animals just want their meal.

Sure, we can kick around WHY Brown was like that but it all distills to his believing he was owed something not his.

Entitlement.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

How so? The so-called "beating" Wilson received that produced barely discernable marks on his face?

And, there is that word again; "entitled"....

Why is that word being interjected into damn near every sentence regarding this case?

"entitled thug"

"entitlement violence"

"mobs of entitled rioters and looters"

"Entitled" to what?

I smell a big fucking rat behind this. Where are we going with it?

Think about that fellas.

Dave

Dave this is typical right wing shibboleth trying to contaminate a perfectly innocent English word.

Thieves do no rob because they feel entitled to some item in your possession, hell they don't even know WTF you have until they have broken into your home.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Theft = entitlement. Brown was entitled.

The rat is that many black folks accept thuggery from criminals like Brown as acceptable then whine or react with anger when he -- of his own assaultive accord -- gets himself shot by attacking empowered authority.

That's on him and those who would, by their own beliefs, support him.

Why do you see the word? Because it's the root of the issue.

In your mind perhaps, but as an English speaking person 'entitled' is a perfectly innocent word (look it up in the OED sometime) which people on the right are attempting to pervert like they do with everything.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

Entitlements are what allowed the disintegration of the black family as well as poor whites. It was an unintended consequence. And, I don't know what the alternative was other than some suffering children.

But, you have to think that a lot of these fathers would have been forced to take care of their children rather than walk away and watch them suffer. And, the mothers would have done a better job of figuring out how not to have them.

Children need a father if possible.

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Zeke

WHY do they take it?

Because they feel entitled to it.

Zeke now knock it off you are smarter that that. You know damn well that is pure unadulterated bull shit.

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by merrylander

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

What is your idea about what has destroyed the black family unit over the last few generations ?

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Zeke

You miss the point: the folks believing themselves entitled to your stuff don't give a damn about your experience (see Brown v. shopkeeper), their only typical feelings being aggression towards those who would -- appropriately -- question their perceived criminalistic rights (see Wilson v. Brown).

Animals just want their meal.

Sure, we can kick around WHY Brown was like that but it all distills to his believing he was owed something not his.

Entitlement.

You twist the point. The point isn't that the criminal would give a damn about my experience. The point is YOU claimed my experience would teach me that criminals feel entitled. But how? It still makes no sense that being robbed would somehow get me inside the head of the robber.

Meanwhile, still no source from you. So I conclude that as I figured there is no rigorous source. There are no structured interviews, no experiments, no tests, that looked at lots and lots of criminals and counted how many showed EVIDENCE of 'entitlement' attitude in their heads. No research exists. Just rightwing BS.

This is just a matter of saying 'look they obviously feel entitled, by definition. And they are animals.' It's a name-calling propaganda campaign, with nothing behind it--except a strategy to make 'entitlement' a dirty word by linking it to criminals.

We were talking about points. Here's the real point. People who receive entitlement benefits are NOT criminals. They are people who DESERVE what they get. But they are the targets of this propaganda offensive. Criminals aren't the target here, they are just tar for the bucket. The purpose of defining criminals as 'entitled persons' is to make them into tar to throw at entitlement programs. It is to mobilize opinion against medicare and social security.

And you've become the agent of bullshit.

The attack fails if the supposed definition of criminality as entitlement fails. That's the nexus that must be resisted, that must be shown to not exist. That must be laughed out of the room. Because it is based on nothing, except the mindless repetition of the idea, over and over and over....