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11-30-2014, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeke
Oh, it will do something.
It will make the thugs more violent in their actions against a society they could suceed in were they anything but entitled.
The problem rests with the great grandkids of folks who killed Malcom X post return from Mecca.
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And, there is that word again; "entitled"....
Why is that word being interjected into damn near every sentence regarding this case?
" entitled thug"
" entitlement violence"
"mobs of entitled rioters and looters"
"Entitled" to what?
I smell a big fucking rat behind this. Where are we going with it?
Think about that fellas.
Dave
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11-30-2014, 06:32 PM
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Violence is as American as cherry pie. I'm no fan of any of it, believe me. But I've got little patience with this notion that 'cop wrongful violence and official misconduct are regrettable, but black people acting out over it is HORRIBLE AND UNACCEPTABLE.' You can't fix the one without fixing the other. Trying to stop the second and then getting around to the first when you can is just AIDING AND ABETTING the oppression.
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11-30-2014, 06:40 PM
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Sir Lord Vader of Cheam
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
How so? The so-called "beating" Wilson received that produced barely discernable marks on his face?
And, there is that word again; "entitled"....
Why is that word being interjected into damn near every sentence regarding this case?
"entitled thug"
"entitlement violence"
"mobs of entitled rioters and looters"
"Entitled" to what?
I smell a big fucking rat behind this. Where are we going with it?
Think about that fellas.
Dave
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Theft = entitlement. Brown was entitled.
The rat is that many black folks accept thuggery from criminals like Brown as acceptable then whine or react with anger when he -- of his own assaultive accord -- gets himself shot by attacking empowered authority.
That's on him and those who would, by their own beliefs, support him.
Why do you see the word? Because it's the root of the issue.
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11-30-2014, 06:42 PM
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Area Man
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
Violence is as American as cherry pie. I'm no fan of any of it, believe me. But I've got little patience with this notion that 'cop wrongful violence and official misconduct are regrettable, but black people acting out over it is HORRIBLE AND UNACCEPTABLE.' You can't fix the one without fixing the other. Trying to stop the second and then getting around to the first when you can is just AIDING AND ABETTING the oppression.
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Right.
People who go on relentlessly about "tyrannical government" running to the defense of uniformed employees of the government beating and shooting people with near-impunity.
Dave
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11-30-2014, 06:45 PM
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Area Man
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"Theft = Entitlement"? Really?
Dave
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11-30-2014, 06:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak
And, there is that word again; "entitled"....
Why is that word being interjected into damn near every sentence regarding this case?
"entitled thug"
"entitlement violence"
"mobs of entitled rioters and looters"
"Entitled" to what?
I smell a big fucking rat behind this. Where are we going with it?
Think about that fellas.
Dave
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Entitlements are what allowed the disintegration of the black family as well as poor whites. It was an unintended consequence. And, I don't know what the alternative was other than some suffering children.
But, you have to think that a lot of these fathers would have been forced to take care of their children rather than walk away and watch them suffer. And, the mothers would have done a better job of figuring out how not to have them.
Children need a father if possible.
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11-30-2014, 06:54 PM
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From Websters;
"Entitlement;
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a : the state or condition of being entitled : right
b : a right to benefits specified especially by law or contract
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: a government program providing benefits to members of a specified group; also : funds supporting or distributed by such a program
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: belief that one is deserving of or entitled to certain privileges "
I see nothing about petty theft, here. He may have thought he was "entitled" to free cigars, but he wasn't. I am "entitled" to next weeks paycheck because I worked for it. One might be entitled to some benefit because of a contract or law, but no one is entitled to outright theft.
There is a difference. I'm thinking the word is deliberately being tied to this horrific incident for purely political reasons.
Soon we'll be hearing all about how Grandma is a thieving thug, because she applied for Medicaid. If we haven't already.
Dave
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11-30-2014, 06:55 PM
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Sir Lord Vader of Cheam
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
"Theft = Entitlement"? Really?
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Unless in dire straights, a person only steals something they feel entitled to.
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11-30-2014, 06:57 PM
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Area Man
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Originally Posted by Zeke
Unless in dire straights, a person only steals something they feel entitled to.
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No, they steal it because they are a f**king thief. They know it doesn't belong to them and they have no right to it, but they take it anyways. That's what thieves do.
Dave
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11-30-2014, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeroJunk
Entitlements are what allowed the disintegration of the black family as well as poor whites. It was an unintended consequence. And, I don't know what the alternative was other than some suffering children.
But, you have to think that a lot of these fathers would have been forced to take care of their children rather than walk away and watch them suffer. And, the mothers would have done a better job of figuring out how not to have them.
Children need a father if possible.
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No, I don't have to think that. A man who walks away from his kids isn't doing it because he knows they'll get food stamps, he does it because he doesn't care what happens to them. He's an asshole. Assholes don't care.
Dave
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