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Old 11-16-2014, 03:39 PM
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I had big trouble with some 80,000 mile tires I put on a Jeep Cherokee once, back in the early 90's. Started skidding around if there was a drop of rain on the road. Rubber too hard, vehicle too heavy. But got my money back (pro-rated)--from Wally World.
Wally world sells 80,000 mile tires?

What brand are they, Maypops?
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Old 11-16-2014, 05:02 PM
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Don't recall brand name. Not a famous name.

To tell the truth, they might have been only 70,000 mile tires. I put about 2000 on 'em, if that.
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Old 11-16-2014, 05:27 PM
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Don't recall brand name. Not a famous name.

To tell the truth, they might have been only 70,000 mile tires. I put about 2000 on 'em, if that.
That's what you get for shopping at Wally World.

They pressure their suppliers to lower their quality in order to meet their price demands.
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Old 11-16-2014, 06:10 PM
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That's what you get for shopping at Wally World.

They pressure their suppliers to lower their quality in order to meet their price demands.
Actually, what they do is try to pressure their suppliers to cut corners all around......Especially labor costs.

I work for a WalMart supplier. They want the cheapest, low grade shit we make. But, they buy a lot of it. At one point they were trying to leverage significantly lower prices. ("Demand" is a better word.). Prices that we could not give them, no way, no how without huge cuts to the one thing the company has control over-----labor costs. Fortunately, the people who own our business had the stones to tell them to piss off. For one year, we survived without the bastards and never laid off a single employee. Then, they came back. It seems they couldn't get anyone with any self respect to do it either. And whoever they went to after us gave them the price they wanted, but also gave them horrible quality and service.

Guys, everything you hear about WalMart is true. They are straight up assholes. They don't care about anyone. Our managers told us in a meeting, that every vendor who deals with them will tell you that. But, people put up with it because they do buy in high volume. Unfortunately, many manufacturers go the route of outsourcing to satisfy their demands. (Which, of course, is only temporary. Unbridled greed doesn't know when to quit. That's what makes it "evil".)

When it reaches the point where doing business with someone like that is a pain in the ass and there is no reward to it.....

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Old 11-16-2014, 07:46 PM
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Actually, what they do is try to pressure their suppliers to cut corners all around......Especially labor costs.

I work for a WalMart supplier. They want the cheapest, low grade shit we make. But, they buy a lot of it. At one point they were trying to leverage significantly lower prices. ("Demand" is a better word.). Prices that we could not give them, no way, no how without huge cuts to the one thing the company has control over-----labor costs. Fortunately, the people who own our business had the stones to tell them to piss off. For one year, we survived without the bastards and never laid off a single employee. Then, they came back. It seems they couldn't get anyone with any self respect to do it either. And whoever they went to after us gave them the price they wanted, but also gave them horrible quality and service.

Guys, everything you hear about WalMart is true. They are straight up assholes. They don't care about anyone. Our managers told us in a meeting, that every vendor who deals with them will tell you that. But, people put up with it because they do buy in high volume. Unfortunately, many manufacturers go the route of outsourcing to satisfy their demands. (Which, of course, is only temporary. Unbridled greed doesn't know when to quit. That's what makes it "evil".)

When it reaches the point where doing business with someone like that is a pain in the ass and there is no reward to it.....

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Excellent post, thanks!

I'm even more determined to stay away from them now.
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Old 11-17-2014, 12:39 PM
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Sam Walton is rolling in his grave.

I hate Walmart. I only go there to mount and balance my tires. That's all labor so we keep it more or less, and they install the tires, actually check the lug nut torque, drive it in a figure 8 and the manager has to re-check the torque.

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As for Pete, he can continue to save a nickel and roll the dice.

In fact, I'd be disappointed if he doesn't.
You realize I watch them doing this.

I'm using the frenchie tires too. At least they're going on American steel

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Old 11-17-2014, 12:47 PM
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My last set of new Michelins I purchased were made in USA or at least that was on the sidewalls. I did't think it was that long ago but I guess it was.


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Old 11-17-2014, 12:51 PM
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They've got plants here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelin

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Old 11-17-2014, 03:08 PM
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At least they're going on American steel

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Where do you think my Accord was made?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marysville_Auto_Plant
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Old 11-17-2014, 03:25 PM
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Union?

Where's the big evil corporate money going - Detroit?

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