Darren Wilson's Side of the Story

[icenine]

If you do not believe in the closed loop, have anyone of you heard about the American sailor or Marine that allegedly killed a transvestite Filipino in a hotel room last month? He killed the man after he found out he was not a female once he brought "her" back to the hotel.

Buried in our press but a big deal over there of course. I heard it from my wife who heard it on the Filipino news we have on our DirectTV. I do not think MSNBC has even mentioned this case.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by finnbow

The fact that police often use informants doesn't render Brown's partner credible. It's up to a jury to determine credibility.

Yes but you (or if not you forgive me) or others have stated here he is not credible.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by icenine

Yes but you (or if not you forgive me) or others have stated here he is not credible.

I would say his credibility is certainly suspect. He's certainly not a dispassionate bystander.

[icenine]

Thus this narrator has reached the conclusion that for something to be considered a "good shoot" it has be at least something one can brag about and proclaim to the whole world, as in at a press conference; forensic evidence alone really does not cut it I would surmise, an interpretation, nay a narrative description is probably the necessary ingredient, otherwise the new paradigm initiated by Wilson portends a not very agreeable future for this society.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by icenine

...otherwise the new paradigm initiated by Wilson portends a not very agreeable future for this society.

Your statement implies that Wilson is guilty of something. We don't yet know that. The new paradigm I fear is allowing mob threats of violence to result in authorities undertaking judicial actions they otherwise should not (though we admittedly don't yet know if a prosecution is warranted).

[icenine]

Police shoot and kill people all of the time....
there must be something different about this one.


I told you before.....my salt shaker brain just wants some information....not leaks.

I mean you of all people do not seem to be the type to just take the word of a government at face value. I would love to see any evidence to clear Wilson. I just do not want his word only.

My post was a pretty good sentence if I do say so myself.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by icenine

Police shoot and kill people all of the time....
there must be something different about this one.


I told you before.....my salt shaker brain just wants some information....not leaks.

I mean you of all people do not seem to be the type to just take the word of a government at face value. I would love to see any evidence to clear Wilson. I just do not want his word only.

My post was a pretty good sentence if I do say so myself.

It had a certain e.e. cummings quality.

I don't take what the government has to say at face value, nor do I take the word of Brown's accomplice at face value. I do, however, believe that the slow-moving wheels of justice (to include the work of our fellow citizens on the grand jury and trial jury (if a trial is warranted)) will get this about as right as possible, given the circumstances.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by finnbow

It had a certain e.e. cummings quality.

I don't take what the government has to say at face value, nor do I take the word of Brown's accomplice at face value. I do, however, believe that the slow-moving wheels of justice (to include the work of our fellow citizens on the grand jury and trial jury (if a trial is warranted)) will get this about as right as possible, given the circumstances.

Yes I have been hard on you...you are more objective about it all...your use of the flash term "mob" gets me going however.

I do not connect the protests with the event. I am sure they probably got a grand jury going but otherwise I really do not connect them with anything.

I do not Wilson sent away for life....just put on trial if he indeed used excessively deadly force, that is all. I think most police departments generally are above board and when they use deadly force are justified....and usually there are no protests afterward.


I do not want an America where someone is killed by authority and we just take it a face value because the police do not think they have to answer to anyone.

There was the black man in NYC who was killed because he was put in an illegal choke hold after supposedly selling cigarettes. There was homeless man beaten to death by cops here in Orange County. There is the case in Florida where the person allegedly shot himself to death in the chest while having his handcuffed behind is back in a patrol car. Maybe I let this influence my viewing of the Wilson case.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by finnbow

He's certainly not a dispassionate bystander.

And Wilson is?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

And Wilson is?

Of course not and I never said he was. For the very same reason, the credibility of Wilson's testimony also needs to be assessed by the grand jury and perhaps later by a trial jury. It's abundantly clear, however, that you would be disqualified from sitting on such a jury.