Darren Wilson's Side of the Story

[donquixote99]

And whatever an officer plans, is right?

Finn, if the 'point = intention to shoot' saying rules, then I guess 'surrendering at gunpoint' is not permitted under the modern code?

The Geneva Conventions say you're supposed to accept surrenders, but I guess than only applies to foreign enemies?

[barbara]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

And whatever an officer plans, is right?

Finn, if the 'point = intention to shoot' saying rules, then I guess 'surrendering at gunpoint' is not permitted under the modern code?

The Geneva Conventions say you're supposed to accept surrenders, but I guess than only applies to foreign enemies?

Not saying that whatever the officer plans is right. What I am saying is that any time one has a gun drawn on them, they need to consider the fact that the gun might be used.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by barbara

Not saying that whatever the officer plans is right. What I am saying is that any time one has a gun drawn on them, they need to consider the fact that the gun might be used.

Well, that much goes without saying. In fact, it's so obvious that I'm almost sure you mean to imply something further. Feel free to expand on your remarks if you want....

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Well, that much goes without saying. In fact, it's so obvious that I'm almost sure you mean to imply something further. Feel free to expand on your remarks if you want....

I taught gun safety for decades and she's exactly right. You don't pull a gun unless you're willing to use it. You don't necessary draw-and-shoot Matt Dillon style, but if you pull it out, you better be prepared to use it.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by barbara

Not saying that whatever the officer plans is right. What I am saying is that any time one has a gun drawn on them, they need to consider the fact that the gun might be used.

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Well, that much goes without saying. In fact, it's so obvious that I'm almost sure you mean to imply something further. Feel free to expand on your remarks if you want....

Seems pretty plain to me.

I don't know if you've ever had gun pointed at you Don but I can tell you this much, you comply with whatever is demanded of you, be it a copper or an armed robber demanding your wallet. You definitely don't resist arrest unless you want your ass beat and/or shot.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by bobabode

You definitely don't resist arrest unless you want your ass beat and/or shot.

That's a right agreeable notion, and one will feel moved to affirm it, and proud to do so--as long as you think the man with the gun is your man, eh?

You probably think I'm all wet. But why the heck do you feel such apoligia for authoritarianism is worth saying, otherwise?

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I taught gun safety for decades and she's exactly right. You don't pull a gun unless you're willing to use it. You don't necessary draw-and-shoot Matt Dillon style, but if you pull it out, you better be prepared to use it.

Remember where this little talk started. Sheltiedave affirmed "If an officer pulls his gun, you are going down. We will not support a force that has codified that as training. No way, no how."

You, barabara, and Bob have all demurred. I just gave Bob a theory as to why.

Here I'll just note that you affirm 'if you pull it out, you better be prepared to use it.' That isn't exactly the point in question, referring back to Sheltiedave, is it? It's like you want to argue the point, but you want to be on different ground at the same time....

[finnbow]

What dismays me about this whole brouhaha is the determination of many to indict and convict Wilson without knowing all the facts and one's view on the Ferguson shooting seems to break along partisan lines. I'd like to think that the proper administration of justice isn't a partisan affair.

What are your feelings bout State Senator Jamilah Nasheed's implicit threat to the DA?

"If you should decide not to indict this police officer, the rioting we witnessed this past week will seem like a picnic compared to the havoc that will likely occur."

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/..._arrested.html

[donquixote99]

My feelings are it's irresponsible and demagogic, but that politicians do love rhetoric. I wish that politicians of all stripes would not say bad things.

I also have feelings about the rhetoric on the website you cited.

Yes, you can predict partisan political positions in this country by looking at the race factor. And neither politics nor race should have anything to do with the administration of justice, but guess what?

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

'if you pull it out, you better be prepared to use it.'