Darren Wilson's Side of the Story

[sheltiedave]

Finnbow, there are multiple eyewitnesses to the confrontation besides the police officer. There was his friend, two white construction laborers, residents outside their apartment buildings, residents on the ground floor, and residents on their second floor vantage points.

Would you explain how the only grand jury leaks involve the testimony of the police officer, but no one else's grand jury testimony? I'm not a big conspiracy theorist, but there is one going on here.

There seems two be two camps here about Brown stopping - either he was out of his mind and drug crazed when he stopped, or he was reversing direction to attack the officer. How about a third and most sane camp....ie he realized he was wrong, needed medical care, and would get caught in short fashion, so he stopped, turned, and started to surrender, only to be met with a fusilade of bullets. The evidence, and testimony of at least three witnesses, supports this viewpoint...which is not being spoonfed to anyone.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by sheltiedave

Finnbow, there are multiple eyewitnesses to the confrontation besides the police officer. There was his friend, two white construction laborers, residents outside their apartment buildings, residents on the ground floor, and residents on their second floor vantage points...

We'll see what happens. FWIW, forensic evidence is more reliable than eyewitness testimony (I would contend that his friend's version of events are is probably the least reliable piece of evidence out there, considering his implication in the whole sordid mess). Plenty of people have been sent up the river on eyewitness testimony, only to have forensic evidence (e.g., DNA) acquit them later. The cop could well be guilty of a public execution, but I'd prefer to let justice take its course.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by finnbow

We'll see what happens. FWIW, forensic evidence is more reliable than eyewitness testimony (I would contend that his friend's version of events are is probably the least reliable piece of evidence out there, considering his implication in the whole sordid mess). Plenty of people have been sent up the river on eyewitness testimony, only to have forensic evidence (e.g., DNA) acquit them later. The cop could well be guilty of a public execution, but I'd prefer to let justice take its course.

You've now said about as much as all the people you've been criticizing.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

You've now said about as much as all the people you've been criticizing.

Nope. I remain agnostic as to Wilson's guilt or innocence and am, by no means, part of PC's virtual lynch mob.

[donquixote99]

What virtual lynch mob?

[icenine]

In other words if you question the police side of the story (which by the way there is no "police side of the story yet" because one does not exist and there is no incident report) you are a lynch mob. If you are open minded and entertain the possiblity that the eyewitnesses might be correct you are a sort Al Sharpton stooge. Then on top of all that it is ploy to somehow influence the Alaskan Senate race.

Tom Joad, DQ, Beam On, Sheltie Dave are not a lynch mob. Sorry if you are guilty by association.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Zeke is just offering an alternate narrative to that force-fed by the Democrats and their compliant media (e.g., MSNBC). There are two sides to every story, and the way it looks his side is probably closer to what actually happened. That really pisses off those of you who went so far out on a limb with charges of a public execution.

Zeke is just being a pompous ass. There are a number of sides to every story and then there's Zeke's side. Once Zeke decides to spew his side, anybody who expresses a different side is automatically a fucking idiot.

But go ahead on finn...defend him some more. Maybe you're related.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

What virtual lynch mob?

I think hyperbole is a suitable rhetorical response to those who wish to impugn the DA and criticize a grand jury before it completes its work (FWIW, none of you on this "virtual lynch mob" would have been allowed to sit on this grand jury (or a subsequent petit jury) having expressed the views you have on this case). Criticism of a DA and grand jury is perfectly warranted if and when they do not charge him in the face of sufficient evidence supporting an indictment.

In the meantime, I don't support subverting the legal process at the expense of Wilson's rights in order to preclude possible mob action in Ferguson. At this time, Wilson could be a cold-blooded murderer or pure as the driven snow. We just don't know yet.

[sheltiedave]

I would agree with you to let justice prevail, but the DA office is precluding that with it's nuanced illegal behavior. As far as the forensic evidence, there are four distinct sections of the encounter that have forensic evidence, but only one of the sections can speak for itself. To wit...

The intitial encounter

The disengagement

Second round of bullets

The final positions

If we don't hear about all four of these situations, from both sides of the encounter, then there is no justice, nor will there be any knowledge gained about police codified practice in such situations.

I have seen enough police encounters, and witnessed enough police misconduct, to know we need a civilian police review board in at louis city/county. Evidence stolen, evidence money's missing, World Series tickets confiscated while being scalped and then used by the police, dais disappearing, million dollar tow scams, shakedowns and corruption, graft and kickbacks, fake work end' comp, and almost all swept under the rug.

This is just one of thousands of issues with at. Louis cops that will continue to be hidden behind the blue line.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

You've now said about as much as all the people you've been criticizing.

Good catch, but he'll never acknowlege it.