"Here's How You Get Ebola"

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by nailer

IIRC a well respected pundit wanted to Neutron & Napalm 'em.

Just the armpit of Texas, DFW Bob.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by nailer

In essence you're saying that every US hospital should already be fully equipped and have properly trained staff on duty to handle a disease that didn't exist here a month ago.

It is good news about Nina and here's to our continued good fortune.

Now, now, now brother Bob. You know I didn't say "fully equipped". A couple of hazmat suits and a bull session with the nursing staff isn't the same as a level four bio hazard containment unit in every hospital.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by nailer

This may indeed be the case now. My post is about the state our Ebola preparedness when the infected Duncan landed.

My post was in support of your comments. We would only need six to eight specialized treatment facilities to handle Ebola cases for now, probably even less. One should not expect every major hospital in the country equipped to treat Ebola. Education and training is probably more critical to minimize the spread of the disease between healthcare workers.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Now, now, now brother Bob. You know I didn't say "fully equipped". A couple of hazmat suits and a bull session with the nursing staff isn't the same as a level four bio hazard containment unit in every hospital.

Typical dodge from Rabid Dem Dog.

Having the equipment needed to effectively and safely treat a contagious Ebola patient is fully equipped. Effectve training is significantly more than a bull session. It was chance that the first case landed at Presbyterian. I figure most US hospitals wouldn't have been prepared for Duncan.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

My post was in support of your comments. We would only need six to eight specialized treatment facilities to handle Ebola cases for now, probably even less. One should not expect every major hospital in the country equipped to treat Ebola. Education and training is probably more critical to minimize the spread of the disease between healthcare workers.

Thanks. I was clarifying my point and agree wth yours.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Just the armpit of Texas, DFW Bob.

You first proposed the N & N solution for Ohio.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I understand 10 hour shifts on a hospital floor. I was a social worker on a psych unit for a year...it pretty much overwhelmed me. And I wasn't dealing with Ebola, just people with bipolar disorder, self-mutilators, etc.

One of the problems with the precautions being used in Africa is that after about 15 minutes in one of those plastic enclosures with no A/C, you're about to pass out. Workers are stripping their gear off without taking the time to make sure they're doing it safely.

But there are not a lot of reasons why workers are coming down with the virus. As you mentioned...the precaution protocols are inadequate. Or the training on the adequate precaution protocols is inadequate. Or after a 10 or 12 hour shit, an error is made when removing the gear, either due to inadequate training, or exhaustion, or a simple mistake.

If that's too harsh I apologize...but it's still pretty much the story.

It is ok.....I think people are under the assumption that our hospitals would be able to handle an outbreak like the one in Africa.....logistically I do not think they are. You have to remember American facilities are not used to diseases like dengue fever and Ebola.....this is a disease that needs spe************************t centers like in Atlanta.

The reason this disease scares me is that two professional ER nurses got it....
and they were using the normal universal precautions they do with all patients. So to me this thing is very dangerous. In other words they were using rubber gloves and still got it. Which is kind of scary to me.

I think in a month we will know. I just hope there is no outbreak in Ohio.
And if the ones who catch it here (vice Africa) and live that will be a good sign.

[sheltiedave]

Y'all do realize we have a huge vector problem in the US. A nurse or family member in Africa might go five or ten miles in a day. We have potential vectors that board a plane, and in a couple hours have gone from Texas to Ohio. Our mobility and culture are such that we absolutely require unfettered travel and minimal infringement of personal space to live.

This is going to be bad. Just being a realist.

And our radiation site has just been notified that we will have no further Tyvek PPE deliveries until further notice. The govt and hospitals have swallowed the entire nationwide stock, outside of nuc plant orders. The fun is starting.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by nailer

Typical dodge from Rabid Dem Dog.

Having the equipment needed to effectively and safely treat a contagious Ebola patient is fully equipped. Effectve training is significantly more than a bull session. It was chance that the first case landed at Presbyterian. I figure most US hospitals wouldn't have been prepared for Duncan.

WOOF, WOOF. Got any bacon?

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by nailer

You first proposed this solution for Ohio.

Originally Posted by nailer

You first proposed the N & N solution for Ohio.

You oughta hear how I feel about Arizona...