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Old 10-06-2014, 09:28 PM
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Read it and weep or rejoice as is your wont. Six more states are likely to have their unconstitutional state bans struck down in the near term. When next summer rolls around, it looks to be all over with a possible exception of the 8th Circuit.

"Based on the tone of oral arguments in August, the 6th Circuit Court of Appeals in Ohio was expected to issue a ruling soon upholding bans on gay marriage that would affect Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee and Michigan.
The 5th Circuit in New Orleans, perhaps the most conservative in the country, is soon to consider a ruling upholding the marriage ban in Louisiana. Its ruling would apply to Texas and Mississippi as well as Louisiana. The 11th Circuit in Atlanta, covering the rest of the deep South, may follow suit.
Less far along and less predictable is the 8th Circuit in St. Louis, covering the upper Midwest plus Arkansas and Missouri."

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...006-story.html
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Old 10-07-2014, 06:09 AM
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Is ther not summat in the Constitution regarding a requirement that each and every state having to respect the laws of all the other states?

I mean to say we were married in a civil ceremony in Virginia and Maryland accepts the fact that we are husband and wife.
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Old 10-07-2014, 09:54 AM
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Is ther not summat in the Constitution regarding a requirement that each and every state having to respect the laws of all the other states?

I mean to say we were married in a civil ceremony in Virginia and Maryland accepts the fact that we are husband and wife.
Reciprocity, it's a courtesy that concealed carry States might extend to each other but afaik isn't law. In theory Constitutional related issues related to BoR should have full universal reciprocity. For example, nobody wants their legal marriage spuriously annulled by a State for religious or other local custom reasons that violate the 1st and 14th amendments.

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Old 10-07-2014, 11:10 AM
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Reciprocity, it's a courtesy that concealed carry States might extend to each other but afaik isn't law. In theory Constitutional related issues related to BoR should have full universal reciprocity. For example, nobody wants their legal marriage spuriously annulled by a State for religious or other local custom reasons that violate the 1st and 14th amendments.

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"Article IV Section 1. Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the congress may by general law prescribe the manner in which such acts, records and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof."

Sounds like more than a mere courtesy.
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Old 10-07-2014, 11:43 AM
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"Article IV Section 1. Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the congress may by general law prescribe the manner in which such acts, records and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof."

Sounds like more than a mere courtesy.
Here is what I found and it is a complicated issue and probably why people are upset that the SCOTUS did not hear the challenge.

The U.S. Supreme Court has struck down Section 3 of DOMA which prevented the federal government from recognizing marriages of same-sex couples, because it violated the constitution’s “equal protection” promise.

The Supreme Court case did not challenge Section 2 of DOMA. Section 2 declares that all states and territories have the right to deny recognition of the marriage of same sex couples that originated in states where they are legally recognized. Who were the plaintiffs in the DOMA case?


http://www.glaad.org/marriage/doma

So it seems to me that either all states grant equal rights to same sex marriage or if a state already has laws against it, they will need to go up the legal chain. This is what I believe the Supremes intended. Keep those attorneys bu$y.
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Old 10-07-2014, 12:45 PM
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Sorry Jim but you've got it exactly 180 degrees wrong. The federal appeals courts told these five states to keep their neo-puritanical noses out of people's bedrooms and their private lives. The 'tyranny of the majority' states rightists took it on the chin today but if you want to call suffering a TKO a victory, please do.
I would much rather have a victory on single payer healthcare than on this.

But that being said, anything that will cause some pain and suffering in baggerville is a good thing IMO.
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Old 10-07-2014, 12:52 PM
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I'm cool with the US Supreme Court letting these uber statist challenges of Appeals court's decisions die stillborn.
There's no chance in Hades that they'll take up a challenge from even the conservative 5th or 8th Circuit down the road.

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Old 10-07-2014, 01:01 PM
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I would much rather have a victory on single payer healthcare than on this.But that being said, anything that will cause some pain and suffering in baggerville is a good thing IMO.


I've been hearing the nippleheads losing their chit all across the fruited plain over the marriage equality non-decision by the SCROTUS.

Some like our resident Tea-hee-publican erroneously think that this puts it back in the states hands and others are just freaking out while calling for 2nd amendment solutions using their crappy AK47s against DHS AH64 Apaches.
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Old 10-07-2014, 04:48 PM
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I've been hearing the nippleheads losing their chit all across the fruited plain over the marriage equality non-decision by the SCROTUS.

Some like our resident Tea-hee-publican erroneously think that this puts it back in the states hands and others are just freaking out while calling for 2nd amendment solutions using their crappy AK47s against DHS AH64 Apaches.
I love it when those baggers get all jacked up and that adrenalin starts coursing through their bloodstreams, scoring up the walls of their arteries so that the plaque will stick better.
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Old 10-07-2014, 09:08 PM
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Breaking news...9th Circuit strikes down the bans out here in the west.

"A federal appeals court Tuesday struck down gay marriage bans across the West, bringing to 35 the number of states where same-sex couples can marry.
The decision by the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals specifically strikes down same-sex-marriage bans in Idaho and Nevada, but it applies to all of the circuit court’s states and overturns similar prohibitions in Alaska, Arizona and Montana."

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...007-story.html

Arizona, Idaho and Alaska?
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