18 and Dead.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

I've known plenty of coppers. I've known several who were in the Marine Corps and became coppers after their discharge. After a few years...not one of the cops was in the shape of a typical Marine 2nd Lt. And not one of them could lay down accurate fire like any typical Marine 2nd Lt. And the cop/Marines would tell you the same thing.

But I'm curious, Zeke. What branch were you in? You got any personal experience with the training or conditioning of field Marines? I kinda fucking doubt it.

But you go ahead on spewing your moronic "expertise".

Suddenly, you modify your original statement because your argument was soundly defeated?

That's so "you."

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Suddenly, you modify your original statement because your argument was soundly defeated?

That's so "you."

Feh. Under a smidgen of pressure, Zeke relocates to Dodge City. I'm gonna take that sniveling response as...Zeke served in no branch. You don't know any more about law enforcement than you do about military service. You're a fraud, Zeke. All bluster, no balls.

If I'm in a firefight I'm taking a well trained Marine next to me over a donut infused cop...every time.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Feh. Under a smidgen of pressure, Zeke relocates to Dodge City. I'm gonna take that sniveling response as...Zeke served in no branch. You don't know any more about law enforcement than you do about military service. You're a fraud, Zeke. All bluster, no balls.

If I'm in a firefight I'm taking a well trained Marine next to me over a donut infused cop...every time.

Sure, sure.

Keep erecting Straw Men because I've kicked your intellectual ass from jump.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Sure, sure.

Keep erecting Straw Men because I've kicked your intellectual ass from jump.

Keep wanking yourself over your delusional victories.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Keep wanking yourself over your delusional victories.

"Victory" would imply you were ever acknowledged as opponent.

Actual knowledge stands on its own.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

This guy looks like if he had to chase a perp more than half a block his heart would explode. Hey Dick, pass me that box 'o donuts.

Sacrificing experience and expertise for body type is surely not what you are advocating.
The military services had (have?) a rather arbitrary set of hight-weight standards of physical appearance that tended to dismiss those that had a fire plug physique regardless of their duty performance or training testing. They'd ignore all that inconsequential stuff to assume if your physical profile didn't resemble the guy in the recruiting poster because you had a chunkier profile, you could be flagged for separation from service if you didn't/couldn't lose weight. A number of fairly muscularily stout guys thus got the boot due to failure to meet the rigid hight-weight ratio that ignored other factors. Not a theoretical, this happened and probably still happens, so I'd never presume physical fitness of someone else unless plainly obvious to the contrary.

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[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

Sacrificing experience and expertise for body type is surely not what you are advocating.
The military services had (have?) a rather arbitrary set of hight-weight standards of physical appearance that tended to dismiss those that had a fire plug physique regardless of their duty performance or training testing. They'd ignore all that inconsequential stuff to assume if your physical profile didn't resemble the guy in the recruiting poster because you had a chunkier profile, you could be flagged for separation from service if you didn't/couldn't lose weight. A number of fairly muscularily stout guys thus got the boot due to failure to meet the rigid hight-weight ratio that ignored other factors. Not a theoretical, this happened and probably still happens, so I'd never presume physical fitness of someone else unless plainly obvious to the contrary.

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Physical conditioning standards and programs in most big city police departments are a joke. And a relatively sick joke at that.

Conversely...when I went through Marine Corps boot, those of us who thought we were lean and healthy put on 10 to 25 pounds of muscle in 12 weeks, and the people who thought they were muscular were mostly fat asses who lost similar numbers or held their weight in a transfer of fat for muscle.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Physical conditioning standards and programs in most big city police departments are a joke. And a relatively sick joke at that.

Conversely...when I went through Marine Corps boot, those of us who thought we were lean and healthy put on 10 to 25 pounds of muscle in 12 weeks, and the people who thought they were muscular were mostly fat asses who lost similar numbers or held their weight in a transfer of fat for muscle.

I went thru Army basic in 66 and again in 72, it'd be good to still be able to handle that. Otherwise PT in combats can pretty much eff up knees and feet later.

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[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

I went thru Army basic in 66 and again in 72, it'd be good to still be able to handle that. Otherwise PT in combats can pretty much eff up knees and feet later.

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I did the Marine basic and then ITR in '69. It's probably one of the reasons my knees are so bad now.

[icenine]

I think it is stupid how much they make Marines run...they really over do it...and that is why they all have very bad knees when they get older. You can see the beginnings of arthritis in the knees on the x-rays I shoot on 20-30 year old service members.