ferguson

[Zeke]

Valid stuff.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Congratulations. You've revealed your bigoted viewpoint, again.

You have created a thing that does not exist--'The Mob.' There is no mob, except as a label pointing to a number of people. But 'The Mob' is not a person, it's an abstract label. Abstract labels do not think, and do not have feelings. So they are not "Entitled. Expectant. Demanding. Vengeful," and they cannot want control, or anything else.

The individuals in the vicinity of where you point may be some of those things in some cases, but you don't know. You haven't talked to them, you haven't gathered evidence. You're just assigning stuff to them based on pre-existing beliefs in your head. That's called prejudice.

It's really harmful, it's dehumanizing, it deprives the subjects of their rights, and justifies any sort of action against them. I can see why TJ is pissed-off.

I guess it's my turn to say WTF? Bigoted and prejudiced?

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Ever read anything -- or bear witness to -- mob mentality?

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I saw some old cowboy movies.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by bobabode

I guess it's my turn to say WTF? Bigoted and prejudiced?

The words mean to apply pre-existing beliefs to characterize people and their behavior by general characteristics, as opposed to looking at the individual and their individual differences.

You'd agree that it's prejudice, of course, to say of a black man that he's shiftless and lazy, without bothering to find out if he holds a job, or showns responsibility in his life. I'm saying it's prejudice to look at a black man on the streets of Furgeson, and say he's "Entitled. Expectant. Demanding. Vengeful," etc.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

The words mean to apply pre-existing beliefs to characterize people and their behavior by general characteristics, as opposed to looking at the individual and their individual differences.

You'd agree that it's prejudice, of course, to say of a black man that he's shiftless and lazy, without bothering to find out if he holds a job, or showns responsibility in his life. I'm saying it's prejudice to look at a black man on the streets of Furgeson, and say he's "Entitled. Expectant. Demanding. Vengeful," etc.

That isn't what Zeke said at all. He was characterizing the mob mentality that has taken over in Ferguson. You should actually read his words instead of extrapolating/assuming what he meant.

Admittedly, I may not have continued after high school to a 'higher' education at some university but I can recognize mischaracterizations and the dreaded broad brush treatment you seem to be utilizing against Zeke's fairly strong arguments.

Once again, let's see what the official report says before rushing to judgment in Ferguson.

Peace, Bob

[bobabode]

In other news the Governor is recalling the National Guard from Ferguson today.

[finnbow]

I heard an interview with a local African-American politician who said that if the cop is not indicted and convicted that all bets are off in terms of future rioting. It seems to me that she's openly admitting that she's not actually interested in truth/justice, in favor of a public lynching. In other words - facts be damned, string him up. Sounds like Tom Joad.

[4-2-7]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I heard an interview with a local African-American politician who said that if the cop is not indicted and convicted that all bets are off in terms of future rioting. It seems to me that she's openly admitting that she's not actually interested in truth/justice, in favor of a public lynching. In other words - facts be damned, string him up. Sounds like Tom Joad.

Yep quite a few in power are stating the same thing and don't care about Rule of Law. No due process and innocent until proven guilty in St Louis.

All this and we don't even know if there is enough evidence to even bring to trial.

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by bobabode

In other news the Governor is recalling the National Guard from Ferguson today.

It's very good news.

Pete

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I heard an interview with a local African-American politician who said that if the cop is not indicted and convicted that all bets are off in terms of future rioting. It seems to me that she's openly admitting that she's not actually interested in truth/justice, in favor of a public lynching. In other words - facts be damned, string him up. Sounds like Tom Joad.

fascinating. I wonder what it's like to think/feel that way.