18 and Dead.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by nailer

The unanswerable, but most important question: Since the officer was able to exit his car, why didn't he roll up the window and call for back-up?

Because you are the backup. (Jesus Christ, I am BEGGING for a head banging against a brick wall smiley.) If a suspect becomes violent in public you cannot wait and hide because your job is to protect the public.

You react, using years of cognitive training, to stop the threat to yourself (and the public) using whatever means necessary up to and including lethal force.

Seriously? Roll up the window and wait for backup? Seriously?

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Perhaps you should take a look at thirty-five feet. That's two car lengths. That's not a chase, that's an ongoing altercation initiated by a guy who just robbed a convenience store.

According to what I have been reading the kid was shot 35 feet from the car.

And the cop was 20 feet from the car when he shot him.

That makes more sense.

Five yards is about the practical range of a handgun for hitting a man sized target under duress despite what most people will allude to.

As for someone being a threat when they are unarmed and have their hands up at what did you say? 35 feet, that's bullshit. This officer had his gun drawn. Even at 15 feet, there is no way an unarmed person standing still with their hands up is a threat to an armed person with their gun drawn. I don't care if it's Usain Bolt, there's no way he can get to you before your bullet gets to him.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

So Mike Brown has gone from being a teenager with attitude to a thug and now a criminal. When he died he was still only a teenager. He gained his reputation after he was killed. Wow, now I can see how Faux does it.

1. Funny.
2. That's why you don't release information until verified.

Piecemeal creates those looking to fill in gaps with agendas. You hold everything while information is gathered -- regardless of the heat -- then present facts.

The urban community painted this kid as a saintly victim. Local investigators likely knew otherwise within hours.

It took six days to codify all of the information.

Nothing to see, just procedure.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Zeke

How can you have any idea where someone is running

You look.

Originally Posted by Zeke

or whether they are armed?

You see a weapon in their possession.

[finnbow]

The only thing we are sure of is that the kid robbed a convenience store, got shot a few minutes later and the community blew up afterwards. Everything else is speculation.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Perhaps you should take a look at thirty-five feet. That's two car lengths. That's not a chase, that's an ongoing altercation initiated by a guy who just robbed a convenience store.

Thirty five feet gets you a first down and then some.

Actually according to the eyewitnesses the officer was 20 feet from the car when he shot Brown and Brown was 35 feet from the car when he was shot.

That qualifies as a chase in my book. As soon as the officer exited the vehicle and took one step after Brown he was in pursuit as far as I am concerned.

[bobabode]

'Ain't this boogie a mess?'

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Thirty five feet gets you a first down and then some.

Actually according to the eyewitnesses the officer was 20 feet from the car when he shot Brown and Brown was 35 feet from the car when he was shot.

That qualifies as a chase in my book. As soon as the officer exited the vehicle and took one step after Brown he was in pursuit as far as I am concerned.

Thank God you're not an investigator.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by finnbow

The only thing we are sure of is that the kid robbed a convenience store, got shot a few minutes later and the community blew up afterwards. Everything else is speculation.

So we're going to discount the eyewitness accounts?

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Thank God you're not an investigator.

Show me where anything I said was wrong in the post of mine you quoted.