18 and Dead.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Zeke

You see, one of us dissects every point, knocking each down one-by-one. (That's me.)

The other cherry picks, creates straw men, and is still unable to make a salient argument. (That's, ahem, "not me.")

You're not very good at this.

You expect a response to crap like this?

Originally Posted by Zeke

Then you're blind.



He got out of the car without a weapon drawn. That is discretion.

I will say this Mr. B.S. Goodshoot, you are certainly racking up an impressive group of supporters.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Zeke

And get what you have coming.

EDIT: You do see the ridiculousness of the above, right? There are folks in this thread who don't believe that forcing an officer back into his car will get you shot?

Again, we do not have all the facts but it doesn't actually matter. If you force an officer back into his car, you're getting shot regardless of what may have occurred, before.

At that point? GOOD SHOOT.

If you desire to whine about what may have occurred, prior? The answer is simple: get out of the damned road where I am driving.

Shove an *officer,* and what you have coming is instant death?

You sure about that?

I thought the *officer* was a government employee in a democracy, not a samurai noble in medieval Japan or something.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

You expect a response to crap like this?

Not from an individual ill equipped to form rational responses.

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I will say this Mr. B.S. Goodshoot, you are certainly racking up an impressive group of supporters.

I have performed well.

You, on the other hand...

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Shove an *officer,* and what you have coming is instant death?

You sure about that?

I thought the *officer* was a government employees in a democracy, not a samurai noble in medieval Japan or something.

If you shove an officer back into his own cruiser whilst in the middle of being interacted with due to a legal infraction?

"YES."

That's well within the law.

[finnbow]

Why don't we wait and see what the investigation uncovers rather than reflexively feigning outrage in accordance with our preconceived notions?

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by 4-2-7

The cops don't make the laws either they are just enforcing them and that's there job. They would like to be able to go home after work just like you and be able to go back the next day.

Right, enforcing the laws of my oppressors, those very wealthy white folks who do not represent me but presume to tell me how to live my life.

The pisser is that I'm forced to pay their salary while those that make the laws they enforce don't. Those cops make out pretty well on my salary too, driving Tahoes, and Explorers and Chargers and shit. Surprising they aren't at my house helping themselves to my wife as well. After all, isn't that what bullies and thugs do? Rape the women?

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Why don't we wait and see what the investigation uncovers rather than reflexively feigning outrage in accordance with our preconceived notions?

Because rage is more fun and it's all we have any more.

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by Zeke

If you shove an officer back into his own cruiser whilst in the middle of being interacted with due to a legal infraction?

"YES."

That's well within the law.

I suppose looking sideways at a cop is a death sentence too.....

after all, walking in the street and selling loose cigarettes are justification for a death sentence...right?

Why not just abandon our judicial system and let the cops be judge, jury and executioner. They sorta do it all now anyway don't they?

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Why don't we wait and see what the investigation uncovers rather than reflexively feigning outrage in accordance with our preconceived notions?

I have no issue with that.

Being said, an officer has every right to persuade someone to get out of the street. (And it needn't be polite.)

If someone takes umbrage and assaults me? And I have -- basically -- retreated to my cruiser?

You're getting shot.

Any break in that logic chain demands a different result.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by MrPots

Why not just abandon our judicial system and let the cops be judge, jury and executioner?

If you threaten bodily harm to an officer? That's what things -- rightfully -- become.